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vacuum aging - emmenthal
« on: December 26, 2012, 11:01:51 AM »
so far my 2 emmenthals seem all fine. since i lack on space i did vacuum them for aging. this was about a week ago when i vacuumed them...but having checked now the vacuum packing is not so tight on both cheeses anymore. i dont think they both leak , but is this normal ? or do i simply change and vacuum with new bags again? thanks for your valued advises, mbox


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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 12:16:34 PM »
The first thing that comes to mind is the production of gas, via the culture, that could eliminate your vacuum. 

Have never made an emmenthal type cheese, but the out-gassing seems logical.

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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 03:57:44 PM »
The first thing that comes to mind is the production of gas, via the culture, that could eliminate your vacuum. 

Have never made an emmenthal type cheese, but the out-gassing seems logical.
You are correct, sir!

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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 05:39:16 PM »
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You are correct, sir!

PS out-gassing. If you wait, you may have a little pillow with a cheese inside.

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I had that problem on my first attempt at the Emmental, had to bag it right from the beginning. I just made the bag long enough that when the bag got a little gas I would cut the end off and resealed it.
as you can see I had many more problems happening :-[
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 11:29:46 PM »
as you can see I had many more problems happening :-[
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 01:19:07 AM »
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 04:59:07 AM »
I have an Emmenthal question.
I have made a dozen or so of these. I just open one that was 7 months old.
It smell amazing tastes amazing but when I cut into it it is wet. It is as if each small hole and there are tons has a puddle of whey in them. By the time I got it cut my cutting board was soaked.
Any thoughts.

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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 06:44:13 AM »
I have an Emmenthal question.
I have made a dozen or so of these. I just open one that was 7 months old.
It smell amazing tastes amazing but when I cut into it it is wet. It is as if each small hole and there are tons has a puddle of whey in them. By the time I got it cut my cutting board was soaked.
Any thoughts.

I am sorry to hear ,and i am sure not a specialist in emmenthal cheese but what pressure did you press it with and how/where did it age?  my mind tells me this could be not hard enough pressed and if vacuum aged too soon in the vacuum? but maybe somebody else has a better idea...

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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 06:51:07 AM »
bbracken667 and boofer , you confirmed my thoughts ...thanks a lot !
I must have a picture of the emmenthal somewhere ...a cheesethread without a picture of the cheese seems a bit "incomplete" :-)

Here one of the 2 - first Emmenthaler Cheese - picture taken a month ago....it was still in the swelling period then...


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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 08:10:37 AM »
I have an Emmenthal question.
I have made a dozen or so of these. I just open one that was 7 months old.
It smell amazing tastes amazing but when I cut into it it is wet. It is as if each small hole and there are tons has a puddle of whey in them. By the time I got it cut my cutting board was soaked.
Any thoughts.
Could be that the curds weren't cooked & stirred enough to expel whey.

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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 05:57:21 PM »
is it whey? it could also be fat. Emmentaler cheeses can sweat their fat out, and often do. Some good Swiss Emmentaler will become very wet when allowed to warm up to room temperature. On older cheeses, this dries out and crystallizes. 
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 10:24:52 PM »
as you can see I had many more problems happening :-[
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 10:27:49 PM »
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2012, 11:15:23 PM »
If you wait, you may have a little pillow with a cheese inside. :D

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I want that for a pillow!
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Re: vacuum aging - emmenthal
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 04:00:59 AM »
I do not think it was fat, The fat usually has a bit of a greasy feel to it. This is clear just like water.
I am pretty sure the make was the same as all the others, only difference is the age . this one a few months longer.
Tastes good.