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Milk for Romano
« on: July 08, 2014, 09:51:42 PM »
I'm planning my first Romano but comparing at different recipes has posed a question: What milk to use?
Gianaclis Caldwell recommends high fat (6.8%) milk. Jim Wallace and Peter Dixon recommend low fat (2.2 and 2.8-3.0% respectively) milk.
Can anyone please throw some light on this discrepancy?
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 10:56:42 AM »
I know, I'm no help at all ;)
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2014, 07:29:27 PM »
LOL H-K-J  ;D

Typically, a romano has a higher protein content than fat content. Meaning Caldwell's looks like a type-o (not her only one either...). There used to be a table from the University of Guelph on milk composition per cheese type, but they took it offline  :(

I've had 100% success following Dixon's recipes, can't say the same with Caroll's and Jim's (ex.: Their jack cheese recipe. I don't know what that cheese is, but it's not jack! Jim don't know Jack! also lack of PH targets and P:F ratios).

So, definitely not an answer, but Dixon and Caldwell are very good, but in this case it looks like Caldwell made a type-o. Instead of 6.8%, maybe she meant 2.8% which is what Dixon recommends.
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 11:08:22 PM »
Thanks Eric.
That sounds reasonable. I thought that 6.8 sounded pretty outrageous.
The other possibility that occured to me was that it might refer to sheep's milk but, if I tried to do that with cow's milk, it would throw the P:F ratio way out.
I think I will go for 28% or thereabouts.
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 12:22:43 AM »
After a little Google Kung-Fu, I managed to find the milk composition per cheese type table. I saved the table in Excel form. Very useful IMO.
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 04:53:25 AM »
Thanks again.
This does look useful. Please accept a cheese for your online martial arts.
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 05:10:41 AM »
Looks like about 20-21% fat given the typical protein content of 32-34%.
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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 08:06:27 AM »
Thanks for the cheese, Prawn  :)

I'm getting more like 2.5% for a 1.5:1 ratio

I guess it depends on protein content in your milk. I may differ from brand to brand.
- Eric

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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 10:20:18 PM »
It's a pity about the Typo's but still... isn't what this forum is for ? to hold the light of comparson against 'facts'.  So the next question is will the real 'Jack' be revealed I've made R.Carrols Monterey Jack nice but bland and didn't know it was a washed curd cheese - or is it ?

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Re: Milk for Romano
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2014, 03:33:46 AM »
The "real" Jack? Careful Ozzie, you could be skating perilously close to the bottomless mire of The Naming of Cheeses.
Which reminds me that I probably should update the progress of the Romano. (Can I call it that if it's never been to Rome?)
I ended up using 4L of low fat milk, P=3.6%, F=0.2%, 4L of full cream at P=3.3%, F=3.8% and 2L of Jersey at P=3.3%, F=4.8%.
By my reckoning, that gives me P=3.4%, F=2.6% and a P:F ratio of about 1.3:1.
The make went well and the cheese is just over 3 weeks old. I have started oiling it and expect to open it sometime next year.
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