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Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« on: January 07, 2013, 12:15:09 PM »
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I am making ash for an upcoming Valencay make. I went down to the hardware store in search of a clean empty paint can to use as an anaerobic chamber but all I could find were cans with a grey (I'm assuming some kind of epoxy) coating inside. I tried burning it out but not all of it burned away. Does anyone know if this is toxic? I thought I would try carefully cutting into a tin can to try that route but I saw a similar coating inside that (I suppose I could just keep cuting into cans until I find one without questionable coatings...)
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 01:18:45 PM »
What about a coffee can?  I think they don't have that coating...but I could be wrong.

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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 01:29:22 PM »
Doesn't matter what you find as you'll never really know what coating, or material, is on the inside.  You could transfer cadium poision into the ash with the wrong material.  Safest bet is to buy a cheap saucepan at the grocery store, usually about $5.00, and use it to burn your vines.  Don't know whata your situation is but in my case I would fill it with pieces of grape vine and then sit it in my wood stove with a good wood fire buring.  That would certainly incinerate anything in that pot but be careful you don't melt the pot.

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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 01:48:34 PM »
^^^ I can find a small aluminum pot at my local dollar store.
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 01:52:35 PM »
Yeah, if you check the kitchenware section of any grocery store or dollar store they usually have a cheap pot you can pick up.


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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 02:07:02 PM »
You could also just use a pot you already own if it is stainless steel depending on whether it is an old one or you don't know how to use an SOS pad.  :)

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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 02:32:21 PM »
Oh grapevines! I had not thought of that. I live in wine country here.

I picked up a cast iron pot the other day to use as a crucible but it was a bit pricey for the purpose and I likely would not use it for anything else. Unfortunately, the local healthfood store no longer carries food grade charcoal or I would have grabbed some for  this make (although they do have raw milk at $9.99 per half gallon- yikes!)

I'll check goodwill later on. Better safe than sorry. Thank you for your input!
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 03:36:58 PM »
FYI - dry aluminum pans can easily overheat and melt. Yes, I've done that. ;)
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 04:08:37 PM »
FYI - dry aluminum pans can easily overheat and melt. Yes, I've done that. ;)

Believe it or not that surprises people sailor. LOL  For some reason a lot of folks don't think they can melt aluminum. LOL

mightyMouse,  From what I've read, the original ash that was used for cheeses was from burning the old grape vines.  That's why I brought it up. 

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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 08:10:21 PM »
I'm not really inclined to use aluminum anyway so no worries on my end.

And.... here comes my daughter wanting to play house... for the 100th time today...
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 08:15:56 PM »
And.... here comes my daughter wanting to play house... for the 100th time today...

That will be more fun than anything else you'll ever get to do.  Cherish it. ;D

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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 10:55:34 PM »

That will be more fun than anything else you'll ever get to do.  Cherish it. ;D

Yeah, she's a good girl (I just wish she would pick a different game once in a while).
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Re: Toxicity of epoxy (or whatever) coating- ash making
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 01:04:13 PM »
I'm not really inclined to use aluminum anyway so no worries on my end.

And.... here comes my daughter wanting to play house... for the 100th time today...

Hope you have fun challenging any assumed gender roles she might have such as she staying home while you go to work.  Or her always making the mud pies and you always eating them!   ;D.  It is fun but yes, the same gam can get tiring.  The cool thing is that she is playing it and learning about how to be in <pretend> relationship, and what she learns in these early games will be part of what shapes her ideas about what type of future relationships she has.  How equally is the power shared, does everyone get a turn at everything, etc.  it's been fun watching my children grow up and embody as adults what they learned from the way I interacted with them in playtime. 

Does she want to make cheese while playing house?  That could work!   ;D