no AL , try to use everything a la caveman ,,,,,,,,however there is a treated pine factory about an hours drive from here
i am very lucky ,a retired engineer lives a few paddocks away [ tasmanian way of measuring distance ] , so anything metal
or wood etc appears in a "puff of smoke " ,,,,,,,,,,currently he is making up 2 x rectangular S.S. hoops 100 ml x 150 ml x
10 ml
many regards ,,,,brian
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