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Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« on: December 09, 2013, 05:33:22 PM »
I don't know if it is a total failure yet, not one of my better makes.
I knew it was going bad when it took over 30 minute floc, fractured curd, the worse I have encountered since my very first cheese >:(
Curd knit, BAD, had to use 8.5 PSI over night, looked fair for 2 days then just got worse as time passed, top/bottom surfaces would not dry but when it did it was like overnight and cracks,bad cracks, so I cut it up.
tried to melt it, that was a laugh, turned to rubber, very salty taste, it is edible on a plane cracker :-\
My BH said she will eat it, I don't think anyone else will :P
I will still age it for much longer and see what happens.
Not happy with this one at all :'(
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 06:09:08 PM »
  Was it rubbery before you tried to melt it.I have been having the same problem and have blamed it on using  a little more rennet to try and get a better curd.I have not tried to melt it as of this time but will try tonight.
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 06:09:24 PM »
Sounds very similar to one I did about three or four months ago.

I just cut it up and vacuum packed it , still haven't tried it yet , I should give it a go and see if it got any better with aging.

Any idea what went wrong ?
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 06:20:24 PM »
I'm sure it was the type of milk, P/H derigold, every cheese I have made with this has failed (2 Swiss, a blue, a farmhouse cheddar and this one)
It will never be used or bought, by me for any reason again >:(
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 06:20:47 PM »
The no-melt problem problem is usually because of too much rennet set time (been there, done that) or not enough final acidity. Just taking a guess, but either the rennet is contaminated, too weak or the wrong amount was used. Or maybe the milk source is too high pasteurized.

This kind of stuff happens to all of us, sometimes we just don't even know why.


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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 06:26:46 PM »
My floc times have been very slow every time I use this milk, I made Feta the next weekend with P/H Meadowgold, floc time, 9 minutes, go figure :-\
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 10:27:14 PM »
That's a bummer man...all that work! Still, it looks good to me!

So, find a good milk and stick with it? Good advice!

I have yet to taste a single aged cheese that I have made, used raw goat's milk first few makes, been using P&H the last two. It gets a good floc time around 15 min, and nice firm curd set as compared to the raw. Not sure if it's the milk or if I am learning.

Anyhow the first raw milk washed rind is over two months old and needs to be tried soon.
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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2013, 12:02:10 AM »
That's a shame, but I suspect your milk given that it's failed you so many times.  Also, caerphilly is a fairly forgiving make, so if it's playing up on you, change milk.  Age it out though, as it may improve a fair amount.  It won't melt, but it might taste better.  At least it didn't take a year or more to find out it didn't work.  Take heart in that, and enjoy one of your fantastic blues.

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Re: Caerphilly, FAIL!!
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 10:16:07 AM »
going to try another Caerphilly this weekend with the same milk I made the feta with, we will see :P
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