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megyams

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First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« on: February 18, 2014, 03:15:12 PM »
Utter total complete newbie (advance apologies) -

Trying to make this recipe today:

1 gallon whole milk
1 1/8 teaspoon citric acid
1/4 tablet rennet, crushed
1/4 cup warm water
EQUIPMENT: cheesecloth; kitchen string
Heat milk and citric acid to 88°F in a 7- to 8-qt heavy pot over low heat, stirring occasionally, then maintain a temperature of 88 to 91°F on an instant-read thermometer, returning to and removing from heat as necessary, for 1 hour. (Mixture will begin to curdle.)
Dissolve rennet in warm water, then stir into milk mixture. Let stand, uncovered, maintaining 88 to 91°F, until the consistency of soft pudding, 15 to 20 minutes.
Using a long knife, make cuts across stiffened milk mixture at 1/2-inch intervals, reaching down to bottom of pot, then make similar cuts in stiffened milk mixture to form a crosshatch pattern (small squares) on top. Let stand, undisturbed, 5 minutes. Keeping temperature between 88 and 91°F (reheat when necessary over very low heat), gently stir curds every 10 minutes for 30 minutes, then let curds stand, uncovered and undisturbed, maintaining temperature, 30 minutes more.

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Problem: never got curdled milk, or curds. REALLY hate to waste this milk. Any tips to salvage it, either as cheese or otherwise?

If it matters (I assume it may), I used organic, low-heat pasteurized organic milk.

Many thanks to anyone who takes the time to read and reply.

Megan

Digitalsmgital

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 03:44:50 PM »
Hi Megan, welcome to the forum!

Tell us more about the tablet of rennet, is it Junket rennet or cheese rennet?

megyams

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 03:52:20 PM »
Hmm. I am not sure. It says "clots 50 liters of milk at 95*F" so does that mean it is cheese rennet? I don't know what Junket rennet is, I'm afraid  :-[

There are many names on it so I am not sure the brand - Cuajo, Marschall, El Cuajo De Hoy . . .

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 05:04:47 PM »
Junket is a brand. It's a rennet strong enough to make custard but not strong enough to make a good cheese.

If you see Marshall on the box, then I believe that's Danisco's brand of rennet. I think all their rennet variation are for cheese making. "Cuajo" is Spanish for "Rennet"

Here are a few suggestions to help achieve coagulation:
1. Try dissolving rennet in room-temperature distilled water before stirring in milk
2. when pouring the dissolved rennet in the milk, make sure you use the right "up-down-20-to-30 seconds" stirring technique for even distribution
 
Also, I haven't worked with pill or powedered rennet in ages, but I vaguely remember that there's a suggested time limit once stirred in water. Maybe someone here can weigh in on this.

megyams

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 05:47:26 PM »
Thank you. I will try again with your suggestions (and a smaller qty of milk I think, in case it doesn't work out). I am wondering, the rennet pkg mentions 95*, but the recipe keeps it below this the entire time (88 - 91*) . . . Could that be the issue?

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 07:34:59 PM »
I always use the tablets , 1/2 tab for up to 4 gallons milk (16l.) diluted in 1/4 cup COOL water about 15 minutes before using.

I've done low temp recipes too , still no problem , so I doubt it's temperature related.

 I can't imagine what happened to yours.

It sounds like what happens when you try to use ultra pasteurized milk , but you say you used low temp organic.

You could maybe still make yogurt with it?

It's very important that you stir it into the milk very well.

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 10:25:41 PM »

My cheese attempt from this past weekend didn't curdle at first either.  Checking Ricki's book, I wondered if I had been running things too cold.  So I increased the temperature and it promptly curdled.  While I was pressing I made a batch of ice water and tested the thermometer.  The reading was off by 10 degrees Celsius.  Well, that explains that.

Have you checked your thermometers against ice or boiling water?

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 01:39:41 AM »
Hi Megan, I know I'm late with my response, but better late than never?

I think you might need calcium chloride.  I would say 1/8 t would be enough for 1 gallon. 

I am so very new at this...but my first 2 makes went down the toilet and one didn't set at all.

Hope this is helpful!

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 02:01:37 AM »
I think you might need calcium chloride.


Calcium Chloride takes away curd's ability to stretch a pasta filata cheese properly. That's why it's normally not used while making mozz. In order to compensate for a stronger curd, some recipes tell you to cut 2" cubes and let rest 10 minutes, then cut 1/2" cubes and rest another 5 minutes.

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Re: First attempt at cheese using rennet (mozz), milk didn't curdle
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 03:11:59 AM »
Thanks Eric....another thing I didn't know! LOL