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Rizzo

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My Second Double Gloucester
« on: July 06, 2014, 09:08:05 PM »
Sunday, 6th July 2014. I thought I would have a go at another Double Gloucester, procedure as follows.

Recipe from 200 Easy Cheeses
Bluetop standard 8 Litres
Meso 704 just less than a pinch
Calcium Chloride  2ml in 50ml water
Renco Rennet (65 IMCU) 5.6ml in 50ml water
Annatto 4 drops in 50ml water

9.48am milk at 32°C, add 704 starter an set for 60 minutes
10.35am add annatto*
10.52am add calcium chloride*
10.58am add rennet

Floc factor 3.5.  Floc time 13.5 minutes = 47.25 minutes, giving curd cut time of 11.45am
11.45am clean break, cut curd to ¼" cubes
11.50am finish cut.  Rest 15 minutes (temp had dropped to 30°C at this point so added a little heat from stove)
12.06pm start to raise temp to 37°C over a 45 min period.   (for once this went well after a slow start) warmed in a water bath in the sink.
12.55pm temp bang on 37°C Curd size small, what I refer to as 'gruel'.
Rest 20 minutes
1.15pm drain into colander
1.15 return to pot and form pancake in bottom of pot, pushing down on curds by hand for 15 mins
1.34pm flip and repeat for 15 mins
1.49pm cut into four pieces and stack for 15 mins
2.05pm flip stack, leave for 15 mins until 2.20pm
2.20 Cut into 1" x ½" cubes and toss with salt
2.27 first press at 25kg for 30 mins
3.00pm redress and press at 30kg for 1 hour
4.00pm redress and press at 30kg until 5.00pm following day (still in press as I write)

*(note: I chose to add annatto and calcium chloride towards the end of the 1 hour inoculation, not after the one hour, at 47mins and 64 mins respectively.  I understand annatto needs to be added 15 minutes before rennet. I didn't want to spin the innoculation out to 1 hour 20…as it happens it did spin out to 1 hour 10mins. I hope it does not upset the inoculation??!!)
« Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 05:39:17 AM by Rizzo »

JeffHamm

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 07:38:17 AM »
Nice looking cheese Rizzo!  Have a cheese to go with it.  I must make a double G. soon.  It's one I've never made yet, and keep wanting to get one done.  Things are really busy with me right now though, and the cave is full, so not sure when I'll get one made.  Will just have to live vicariously through your endeavors!  Sigh.

- Jeff

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 01:29:03 PM »
Rizzo, looks good, ac4u. When you say "just less than a pinch" of meso starter, what exactly do you mean? Pinch = 1/8 tsp, or ?
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Rizzo

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 07:40:00 PM »
A pinch is 1/16th of a teaspoon.  The Meso 704 I have states on the packet; use 1/16th teaspoon for 10 litres milk, hence my term 'just less than a pinch' for 8 litres.   Its a bit of a guess to get 8/10th of a pinch, but  it seems to work ok.   :)
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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2014, 02:20:26 PM »
Interesting that it takes so little of that culture. I am always a bit concerned about the amount of culture I used, because it never matches what recipes say -- precisely because I am following the suggested amount on the package, rather than in the recipe!
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Rizzo

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2014, 07:50:44 PM »
I have been going through exactly the same processes. Do you follow the recipe, or do what it says on the packet?

I follow what it says on the packet, which means all my 8 Litre mixes have the same amount of starter and rennet. I then wondered, and still do, how then do cheeses come out differently?
It was Jeff who advised me that the recipe is more of a guide. The differences in taste come from temperature, inoculation and set times, and what you do with the cheese in between curd cutting and pressing. e.g. cheddaring, etc.  There is the opportunity of course to use different starters. I use standard meso and flora danica.

I have yet to find out how different in taste my cheeses will be as its very early days cheesemaking for me and most of my cheeses are still aging.  Interesting that the instructions on my packet below are contradictory!   :)
« Last Edit: July 09, 2014, 09:13:06 PM by Rizzo »

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 07:23:30 AM »
FINALLY !!!! A cheese worth eating !!!  I opened this cheese last night after 18 weeks (should have been longer but I'm eating up all cheese ready for my xmas long break overseas).  Anyway, back to the matter in hand, smooth, rich, has that nice 'cloggy' sort of feel that a good Double Gloucester has, and a thick lingering taste. I am buoyed by this success, as I had considered giving up, due to the good but not 'to die for' results obtained by my previous cheeses. Pic attached.

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Re: My Second Double Gloucester
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 05:24:01 PM »
A cheese to you for your success!  Very nice looking cheese.  Glad you got one that meets your expectations.