Author Topic: Waxing Swiss Cheese  (Read 5693 times)

thebelgianpanda

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Waxing Swiss Cheese
« on: March 26, 2009, 06:43:20 PM »
I'm currently aging a raw cow milk swiss in wax, but only because out of habit I've waxed all my cheeses (my cave does double duty as a wine fridge as well).  My question is pretty simple, will that prevent eyes from forming?  Or will it just break the wax when it starts to swell?  It's currently about 20 days old and it has not developed eyes yet (and I know it shouldn't, I just couldn't help myself from checking), but it is by far the best tasting cheese I've made.  A touch of funkiness on the nose and probably too much milkfat for the style, but the flavor is everything I wanted it to be.

Anyway, here are some gratuitous shots:












wharris

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 06:55:20 PM »
I thought eye-formation was done at room temp.  Dave?

thebelgianpanda

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 07:00:29 PM »
Well, I guess not reading the recipe closely and just making assumptions is something I should avoid in the future  :-\

Even if it doesn't form eyes I won't be too bummed though, it tastes damn good.

Worlock

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 07:27:52 PM »
Sure does look yummy!

MrsKK

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2009, 12:56:41 PM »
Can't wait for computer technology to get to the point of "scratch and sniff"!  Then "lick and taste".

thebelgianpanda

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2009, 04:55:43 PM »
o_0

Honestly I thank god every day that technology hasn't progressed that far!

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »
Sure looks tasty ... slurp!

Likesspace

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 02:13:49 AM »
Hi guys...
Just saw this post and wanted to respond.
Swiss is one of the cheeses I feel I have to do correctly before I can consider myself a true cheesemaker. I've been fighting this one for quite awhile but still have not found the success I'm looking for.
As for the aging aspect of a swiss style of cheese:
Well first of all, you HAVE to hit your Ph marks correctly during the make. If the Ph is off, even by a little, no eyes will form.
At the time of hooping the Ph should be at 6.3 - 6.4 and at brining the Ph should be at 5.4.
If you have hit the Ph targets then there is a good chance that the wheel will form eyes, but getting the RIGHT type of eyes is another story.
For the eyes to form you first need to give the cheese a week in a cool room (approx. 55 degrees), wiping daily with a saturated brine solution. This helps to form the rind that will handle the swelling.
After that the wheel is to be moved to an environment of 65 - 70 degrees and 85 -90 percent humidity. The kitchen works well for this as long as the cheese is covered to keep the humidity high.
During this "sweating phase", (that lasts for 3 - 4 weeks), the eyes will form in your cheese but like I said before.....forming the RIGHT eyes is the difficult part.
I have produced a lot of swiss cheeses that have the right flavor...the right texture, but not the right eyes.
Every example that I've made has produced a LOT of small eyes but none that are large and symmetrical, as they should be.
I've since found out that to form these large symmetrical eyes, one must press the curd "under whey" to seal the curd mass from any introduction of air. Air to a swiss is pretty much the kiss of death.
I plan on giving this method a try tomorrow morning and will post my findings after an 8 - 12 week aging period.
I'm really quite excited about this experiment. I've been planning on doing it for the past month but life has gotten in the way of my plans.
Hopefully nothing comes up tomorrow that will sidetrack me so that I can finally give this a try.
Swiss is NOT an easy cheese to make correctly, but it is a fun variety to experiment with.
On a difficulty scale of 1 to 10, I would put swiss at a 10.
Keep us posted on your efforts and I will do the same.
Hopefully by all of us working together we can get a handle on what it takes to make this cheese properly.
Thanks for the post..

Dave
 

wharris

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 11:24:32 AM »
Good solid feeback Dave.  thanks. While I have not tried to make swiss,  it's on my radar.
 

thebelgianpanda

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Re: Waxing Swiss Cheese
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 01:13:07 AM »
That's exactly the sort of feedback I was looking for.  I'm not going to go on a rampage if my first try at one of the hardest cheeses doesn't form eyes, since I pretty much expected it wouldn't.  But understanding the Why is probably the most important thing for me personally.  It's kinda like making lean rustic loaves of bread with huge irregular holes--through lots of work I understand what you must do to create them, and most of the time I choose not to since it can be quite a bit more work.

Thanks!!