Hey Debi, I know what you mean about raw milk! I have only been attempting making cheddar for about 7 weeks now, and in no way claim to be experienced as you. I have my own goats, and use my own milk, in the 7 weeks, I have made 10 batches of cheese, 9 of which were from pasteuried milk, today, after reading threads on the site I used un pasteurised milk WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.My curds turned out like the pictures in my book, they were squeeky, when I bit them, they did what they should, I couldnt ask for more. I have to thank linuxboy for this and his lessons on the organic chemistry of milk and cheesemaking. I was sent a thread saying you know the Ph values of cheddar, as I plan to sell what I produce, I want to be consistant, can you enlighten me on my path to be an artisan. all the best Quentin