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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 05:19:04 PM »
Also that cheese cave is fantastic. What size cheeses are those larger ones?

 Those are 6 and 8 pound cheeses.  The waxed ones are 4 pounds each.  I need to get to work and fill my new cave when it arrives.  ^-^
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2016, 07:03:30 PM »
Thank you for all the great advice. You all have definitely put our minds at ease as far as the mold situation. Sunday was cheese waxing day, and it went well. The cheese is now in the cave aging.
So a little bit more about the cheese and why I thought it was too moist. We made a farmhouse cheddar following the first hard cheese recipe in Home cheesemaking by Ricki Carol. Out of the press the cheese looked really great with nice straight sides, but the next day it had slumped and looked like a elephant foot as Gregore said. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture. The cheese dried for almost two weeks and with flipping twice a day it eventually evened out so it doesn't look like an elephant foot anymore. Attached is a picture of the waxed cheese. We picked clear wax to hopefully be able to see any mold growth underneath.
So next steps... Flipping the cheese weekly to check for pin holes of whey leaking out, check for mold growth, check to make sure the wax is still stuck to the cheese. Anything else? We are planning on opening it as soon as a month because we are really excited to try our first hard cheese. What would you all recommend as a next cheese to tackle? Another farmhouse cheddar with a different mold?

Also that cheese cave is fantastic. What size cheeses are those larger ones?

QD, don't be alarmed if, when you open it at one month, it doesn't have a lot of cheddar flavor. A farmhouse style, with more moisture in it, will develop more quickly, but a true cheddar won't taste like much of anything for at least 6 months. You might consider cutting it in half, and if you like it, eat one half but rewax the other half and put it back to age further. And if you don't care for it at that point, rewax both halves and put them back. :)

As far as the next cheese - it wouldn't be very different from the farmhouse, perhaps, but you might look at a Lancashire - this is my favorite quick-ripening (6 weeks), cheddar-family, easy to make cheese. There's been some recent discussion about it, and a search will turn up several recipes. Another to consider is a Caerphilly - even quicker-ripening, ready in 3 weeks. For this one, be aware that there are two somewhat distinct recipes; one involves a cheddaring/milling/salting approach before pressing, while the other just lets the curds rest in the whey for 45 minutes before pressing, followed by brining.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2016, 05:19:29 PM »
Has anyone had any problems with waxing cheddars with an open knit?  I did a farmhouse cheddar yesterday and, although the knit went well, it has some indications on the outside.  Wondering if waxing this is going to be an issue.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2016, 01:40:07 AM »
Al, the first true cheddar I made had some cracks in it. I waxed it, and after 6 months it was delicious ... but it was a bit of a pain to pick the red wax out of the cracks. Other than that, no problems!
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2016, 01:52:06 PM »
That was my concern.  I place this one back in the mold, set it in 160°F water for 3 minutes and am re-pressing it per Caldwells instructions.  Should be closed enough now.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2016, 07:43:32 PM »
That should hopefully do the trick. Now that I have given up wax in favor of vac-bagging, it is not as much of an issue if a cheddar cracks a bit; the vac-bagging helps to pull it tightly together. :)
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2016, 09:40:26 PM »
I have the capability to vacuum bag and have in the past but find that it tends to pull whey out of the cheese that is better left where it is.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2016, 11:54:16 PM »
Al, I have started using beeswax on my cheese and I am loving it! It smells nice and it doesn't leave marks everywhere.

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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2016, 02:03:52 PM »
Unfortunately I have a large slow cooker filled with red cheese wax. LOL
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2016, 02:33:15 PM »
Haha, my slow cooker is full of beeswax now!
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2016, 07:07:25 PM »
Well my cheddar came out at 4 pounds 6 ounces after drying.  Time to wax this one and hide it in the cave for a year or so.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2016, 09:31:29 PM »
All done.
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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2016, 10:29:04 PM »
Nicely waxed cheese Al! Hope she ages good for you!

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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2016, 06:24:01 AM »
Looks very nice! :)

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Re: New hard cheese maker-when is it dry enough to wax?
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2016, 02:37:04 PM »
Thanks guys!
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