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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 03:50:56 PM »
Did you use calcium chloride?  Also, I tend to use slightly more culture, rennet, and time than is called for in a given recipe.  Even then, I'm not convinced I'm getting as firm a curd as what it looks like in others' pictures.  Still, the end results are pretty good so far. Not brilliant, mind you, but pretty decent.
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2017, 11:11:25 AM »
I've had ok results with milk from Vins (safeway) and goat milk from Trader joes. Last weekend I got 4 gallons at costco with a plan to make 2 cheeses.... it was a total bust on the first batch, it didn't set. So second batch I upped the CaCh  and the rennet... let it sit for twice as long, still a bust.
So far, my best luck for cows milk outside of getting it from a friend with a cow, is from the local health food store where I can get half gallons in glass of p/non-h milk.
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2017, 07:43:26 AM »
Go to Albertson's or Safeway and buy the cheap whole milk, the one on the bottom shelf.  Makes great cheese.  The more expensive one on the top shelf doesn't.

I cant figure out what your doin right or what I'm doin wrong I can't seem to make any cheese with that milk,
even upped the rennet just can't get curd to set  :-[

I just do the normal amounts of CaCl and rennet.  Never had a problem with the cheap stuff.  The higher priced stuff is a bust.  I suspect they pasteurize it at a higher temp.
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2017, 05:59:39 PM »
Go to Albertson's or Safeway and buy the cheap whole milk, the one on the bottom shelf.  Makes great cheese.  The more expensive one on the top shelf doesn't.

I cant figure out what your doin right or what I'm doin wrong I can't seem to make any cheese with that milk,
even upped the rennet just can't get curd to set  :-[
Not to put too fine a point on it, but seems fair that Oregon dairies and Washington dairies might differ in feeds, handling, etc. ;)

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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2017, 02:41:54 PM »
You could be right Boofer.
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Over the last year we have made three batches of cams,
instead of getting better results my curd set has gotten worse,
Although the cheese are edible (quite good actually) none of them even come close to the other makes.
Before moving to Oregon we had variation but not like this.
On the bright side, we still get to eat em.
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2017, 10:14:21 AM »
I'm quite new to this..have just completed my 4th successful cheese. 2 - cheddar, a parmesan, and one of Gavin Webber's Butterkase.

All using Kroger brand milk..

At $1.19 / gallon I figured I couldn't lose..the curd time was a bit long. Sometimes as much as 60-70 mins.

But besides that it worked very well.

I wanted to learn a bit on cheap milk before calling on my friend with the raw milk and possibly wasting milk.

I'd have to say that this store brand was quite successful, especially considering the price.

Just awaiting them to mature and taste the results!!

So far so fun and I feel I'm ready to try a batch or two with raw milk since I'm comfortable with handling and temp control now!!

But if the big store stuff was all I had to work with I sure wouldn't have a problem with it!!
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2017, 11:35:37 AM »
It took quite a while but I did find a milk that work's as good if not better than what I used back home.
Found at Bi-mart, it is Cascade P/H whole milk. I can now commence my cheese making 8)
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2017, 10:43:47 PM »
Dougspcs

Just wait until you try raw milk , the curd set difference will blow your mind

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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 08:40:15 AM »
Dougspcs

Just wait until you try raw milk , the curd set difference will blow your mind

I've seen a couple videos..it looks pretty awesome and I'm excited to try it. I assume the yield be considerably higher also.

Now that I have a few runs behind me I'm ready to try it..I just called my buddy with the cows. I'm heading out tomorrow AM to get a few gallons.

Maybe some to report by this weekend.
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Re: Milk from the big retail stores - Any difference in quality?
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2017, 02:08:04 PM »
Dougspcs

Just wait until you try raw milk , the curd set difference will blow your mind

Mind definitely blown Gregore!!!

2 cheese done so far..love the curd set! And the smell coming off the milk as it warms is amazing!!