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Baby Chee

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Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« on: October 20, 2009, 04:06:45 PM »
Y'know, I just got an e-mail from Ulmers about the cost of the 10" x 11" ss mold. 

$75

And with shipping it comes close to $100.  Then I realized something very important: why can't I buy a cheap aluminum stock pot and just drill holes in it?

Anyone have any advice for me?  I would assume a metal stock pot can take 300+ lbs. pressure.

linuxboy

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 04:09:32 PM »
Aluminum is no good, the lactic acid will eat away at it. You want 304 stainless steel or better.

Baby Chee

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 04:25:34 PM »
Good to know.  I see extremely cheap SS stock pots on Amazon. 

The problem is that they are 11" diameter.  If I could find a cheap 10" diameter stock pot I would be happy.

hplace

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 04:30:05 PM »
I purchased two cheap stainless steel stockpots from Amazon (4 gallon and 5 gallon) and both were cracked when they arrived. I had to send them back. The sides are so thin that any little dent causes a crack.

Baby Chee

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 04:35:13 PM »
I could just go to a store and get a mold-stock pot for half that price.  Just gotta drill holes and file off shavings.

Has anyone tried this?

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 01:43:51 AM »
That mould from Ulmers is pretty heavy don't drop it on your toe.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 01:48:39 AM »
I have that same mould from Ullmers.  It is sturdy and will not crack.

I would argue that SS, thick SS is the way to go.


or thick, sturdy HDPE plastic.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 01:56:46 AM »
I don't think a pot would last very long before splitting.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 01:59:50 AM »
Plus, the time drilling all those holes. Is it worth the effort? Not trying to discourage you, but you can get good HDPE molds for not very much. Like a traditional tomme mold with follower is around $15-$20. You can also get microperf molds, but they are a bit more expensive.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 02:09:19 AM »
the 8 inch x 6 inch tomme mold I bought last week was only $29 That would be a good mold for just about anything.
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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 10:00:33 PM »
Aluminum is no good, the lactic acid will eat away at it. You want 304 stainless steel or better.
I was thinking on this today and then researched it on the net.

While lactic acid does destroy aluminum, I saw only one real negative from someone doing the curd work in the pots.  I think that for mold work it might not be too bad.  Using one 6 times a year, 6 days a year, might not be enough to rot the aluminum far.  I could be wrong though.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 10:08:28 PM »
I have read it also leaches into the cheese. I think Linixboy posted something on this at one time. Do you brew in aluminum?

Baby Chee

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 10:59:10 PM »
No, but I wouldn't do the curd work in the aluminum.  But where the cheese is pressed, the aluminum isn't likely to swim up stream.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 11:28:15 PM »
A welding engineer explained to me that aluminum is so highly reactive that it immediately bonds with elements in the atmosphere to produce a non-reactive coating on the surface. The only time a reaction would occur is when this non-reactive coating was removed (scraped or scratched for example). So if you are stirring an aluminum pot with a stainless steel ladle and scraped the side, you would remove that protective coating and aluminum could disolve into the cheese milk until the scratch re-bonds.

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Re: Expensive and Inexpensive large cheese molds...
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 12:25:41 AM »
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While lactic acid does destroy aluminum, I saw only one real negative from someone doing the curd work in the pots.  I think that for mold work it might not be too bad.


Perhaps the reason that there were no negative posts around using aluminium for a cheese mold (hoop) is that no one ever uses aluminium in the first place?! 

I really wouldn't use it for a hoop.  You don't want to spend all you time making curd, only to have it taint in the press...