Author Topic: Raw Milk Results -Wow  (Read 5242 times)

thebelgianpanda

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Re: Raw Milk Results -Wow
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 03:05:58 AM »
I have a couple loaves aging that are raw and store bought as well.  Great w(he)ay of getting the raw advantages (enzymes not being inactivated, microflora) at a better price.

dianad

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Re: Raw Milk Results -Wow
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2009, 02:24:16 PM »
Hi, new here and the only cheese I have ever made (ok, so not actually cheese....) is yogurt. Does butter count? LOL.  But I use a LOT of dairy products for making things.  The best caramel I have ever made is with truly fresh cream.

It may be naive or over-simplified, but the way I wrap my mind around the cost of fresh/raw milk is:  $4/gallon store bought or $6/gallon raw. (I think goats milk is more expensive than that even.)   In order for me to get decent results with store bought I need to alter it a bit, add cream, etc to it to increase the fat % and milk solids. (this is most noticeable in cream where the fat % can vary greatly and affect the ability to whip it - carageenan has been added to stabilize it and there is less fat %.  I guess the same might be true of milk as well.)  A quart of cheap store cream is $3 quart. (Some are $6/quart)  1 gallon of whole milk plus 1 quart of cream equals $7 per gallon at minimum to add the fat, etc back in and try to get back to closer to the real thing.  So the $6 per gallon I can deal with.  And the end results just do not compare.  (The same is true for yogurt, btw. No comparison in the results.)

As far as cheese, I am guessing (using mozzarella as an example) that I can use the store bought milk and get the same quality as those plastic sealed blocks.  But for just a little bit more I can get the really good expensive mozzarella in the gourmet section and actually have it cost less than the $6.50 for like 4 to 6 ounces of cheese.  So, I can get the good stuff and pay the price of the cheap stuff.  I like it. 8)  (Ok, let's not talk about labor and utilities....it is therapy.  And waaaaaay cheaper than those therapists couches, btw!  :o LOL)

I love all things cheese. Give me some yummy, cheesy goodness!  I am now on an adventure/quest to begin making my own fresh cheese. ;D

Funny thing, I set out trying to replicate commercial yogurt.  After eating the homemade version for a couple of days, I was disappointed in my yogurt making skills. :-\  I did get it thick and creamy but thought maybe I was still not getting it right. So I went and tasted the leftover commercial yogurt I had.  ew!!!  The texture was weird somehow compared to the fresh.  Now I have been able to set my complex aside and am thrilled with my results and will never go back to the commercial variety again.  And dh even agreed with the assessment.


This site is an amazing treasure trove of info.


Cheese Head

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Re: Raw Milk Results -Wow
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2009, 03:35:10 PM »
Howdy dianad and welcome to the forum!

Good points on raw milk, for those on this forum in US, it can be tough to get due to local laws etc, assume you are in US as using USD.

Agree cheese making is good therapy for the mind, heart, and body especially as you know what additives are in it. I love my own homemade yogurt, now onlt use store bought for starter, especially as store bought hs viscosifying additives and probably many other smaller weird chemicals.

Cornelius

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Re: Raw Milk Results -Wow
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2009, 08:40:03 PM »
I am happy to report that where I live raw goat's milk is actually 30 cents (US) cheaper than store bought and pasteurized cows milk - and that is per liter! But I must admit that I do pasteurize it myself for soft cheeses that I make. Hard cheeses on the other hand I don't bother (but I am having other problems with those as elaborated on in another topic ...)

I am planning to mix and match raw goat's milk and store bought cow's milk - however, I will do so for flavor. There won't be a patch of green over here come another few weeks and whereas the goat's milk right now is mild and sweet, it will be potent very soon. For the coming 5 months, the goats will feed on nothing more than some dry, wild thyme - possibly some rosemary or bay leave ... Not that the milk is bad, it is actually very tasty and rich, but once flavors are intensified during cheese making, I would assume I will be happier adding an equal amount of bland cow's milk. That being said, it is all speculation - I have yet to experiment with blending ...