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Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« on: May 18, 2010, 12:34:38 PM »
Hello everybody, I am looking for some producers of this kind of coagulant.
It is for a niche market, but it would be nice if you can suggest me some industrial producers of that kind of coagulant, maybe in Spain or Portugal there should be some.

Thank you in advance
Matteo from Italy


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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 02:20:07 PM »
Welcome Matteo

What part of Italy are you from? I am leading a sailing trip to the western coast of Italy in June of 2011. I am looking for suggestions for cheese makers and wine makers to visit.
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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 02:49:27 AM »
Dear Sailor,
nice to know you. Western coast in Italy means which regions exactly? Sardinia and Sicily (islands) also? Because they are very typical in cheese and wine production. If you tell me which coasts you will be I will give you some suggestions.

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 06:51:24 AM »
Matteo, good question, I also haven't seen it in any of the common stores.

There's a good thread here on making and using Cardoon coagulant, but no info on buying. You could try and PM member PFFParra if he doesn't notice this thread.

Hope you two can answer here in the forum as any info on where to buy would be useful to all.

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 11:41:16 PM »
Matteo

We're starting somewhere on the Tuscany coast, probably Scarlino, and heading north. Will probably stop at Elba and maybe Corsica on our return south. Sardinia is possible but definitely not Sicily this trip. We will stop at Pisa and go inland to Florence. We will stop in La Spezia and go up into the mountains around Parma.

I am looking for small artisan cheesemakers and winemakers using traditional techniques. If possible, some of us might like to stay on a farm and work for a day or 2.

The current issue of Culture magazine has a wonderful article on Cardoon cheeses, but no sources. It seems like everyone just grows their own.

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 03:39:15 AM »
Dear Sailor, here are some adresses:

ISOLA D'ELBA
http://www.sapereta.it - wine
http://www.tenutalachiusa.it/ - wine and oil

TUSCANY
Everywhere is good made google research with "agriturismo" as key and the city
I suggest you Val di chiana valley and Siena (http://www.agriturist.it/uk/)
Tuscany is good for wine but not so for the cheeses (just pecorino is good)

AROUND PARMA
I know this land
http://turismo.parma.it/Inglese/page.asp?IDCategoria=260&IDSezione=1165

here the king is Parmesan cheese and the Parma ham (Langhirano is the town for ham)

Hope this inputs are good

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 03:49:05 PM »
I too have been interested in the cardoon thistle.  I have done a google search and have found where to buy the seeds to grow this plant.  I confess that I haven't looked into the prepared rennent though.  There were article on how to dry, make and store.  The only thing though is that is can be only used on goat or sheep milk, as it produces off flavours with cows milk.

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 11:54:11 AM »
If you are still interested in buying cardoon you can contact a portuguese company TECNILAC.
Contact person Sónia Oliveira (soniaoliveira@tecnilac.pt)

If you need help about the preparation, let me know.

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Re: Cardoon coagulant (liquid or powder) extract producers
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 01:25:01 PM »
OH! Another use for Cardoon!!! I have grown Cardoon here in Canada, and love the plant anyway, and am going to plant a long row of it (have tons of seed I saved, that IS viable, I tested). So...I need more technical info on the SCIENCE of using Cardoon...how much of what part to how much water, temps, extraction times, etx...and if we are looking for a specific testable PH or something.... I have used animal and vegetable rennet for many years, but if I can do my own with Cardoon I would be happy to try it!

Anna