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Gorgonzola Pic
« on: March 19, 2011, 11:24:06 PM »
Along with Sailor, I have been working on these blues for many months--this is a Gorgonzola that I did not scrape; yet allowed the molds to ripen and encrust the cheese--what a great reward! I've done both--scraping the cheese at the onset (my first attempt), and now this! Creamy paste, with a tad of crumbliness. I have now vac-packed for its final affinage.
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 11:45:04 PM »
Beautiful job Brie. I think you're getting these blues down. ;)

Did you do this as a traditional 2 day make?
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2011, 12:18:54 AM »
Absolutely, night and morning curd--the only way I have ever done it! Yahoo-what a hue! How are you  doing, my friend? Sounds like your creamery is taking off--what a great endeavor. Thanks for all of your help along the way--you and I are "soul" mates (in the spirit of the blues).
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 09:36:42 AM »
That looks lovely!

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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 12:14:46 PM »
Brie - Soul Mate. I love it. Glad I could help. So when I start to get the blues, I'll think of this Gorgonzola.

For me there is something cathartic about making blues. I make 20 or so different cheeses on a regular basis but you never know how things are going until you cut into one. With the blues it's really cool to watch the natural drama unfold. When the rind gets covered in blue, you know you're going to have a great cheese.

My blues, especially the Ginger Stiltons are my best selling cheeses. So I'm exploring other blues to expand my repertoire. Just did a batch of extra creamy desert cheese called Castle Blue. Made similar to a Stilton in the beginning with some really important differences:

Stilton vs Castle Blue

No curd cut or stirring ------------- Cut into large curds and stir gently for 30 minutes.
Curd drains overnight --------------- Can go right into the hoops for direct draining
Curds are salted -------------- Curds are not salted. After draining the top and bottom are salted.
I keep my Stiltons in the hoops for a few days until they firm up ----------- Castle Blue is firm on day 2 because the curds are not salted
I keep my Stiltons at room temp until I get a nice bloom -------------- Castle Blue goes straight into my cave

One of my next challenges is going to be a Baby Blue Swiss.
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 03:31:57 PM »
Gorgeous Gorgonzola!

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 07:17:55 PM »
Thanks Pam--Sailor--I love the Castle Blue--what size are you making it in for production? Bleu des causses is made with the same recipe, albeit raw milk in wheels of about 5 pounds. It's like blue butter! I'm about ready to cut my Fourme d'Ambert, which I have injected with Vouvrey, should be interesting because the wine kept coming out of the holes I made for the blue to do its thing.
About your blue swiss--wouldn't the blue mold seep into the holes of the swiss? May actually be quite cool with the Shermani and Roquefort working together. Can't wait to hear about that experiment!
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 10:51:24 AM »
My blues are 8" in diameter and around 6-7 pounds.

I actually did not think a Blue Swiss was possible. The holes are good for air space, but I assumed that the CO2 gas produced by the P. shermanii would cut off oxygen for the blue mold. However, I just read in Culture Magazine about a creamery in Italy that is doing them. AND they are using water buffalo milk.
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 10:38:49 PM »
Are you referring to Blu di Bufala? i read about that in Culture--but what makes you think it has Shermani in it? Or am I thinking of another cheese? And thanks for turning me on to this mag--it rocks!
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 07:39:04 AM »
Thanks Brie,

I had just been wondering what would happen if a Gorgonzola was left to develop a natural rind. My next question is, what do you call it now? Is there a real, official rinded Gorgonzola, or is this how new cheeses are made?

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 10:39:38 PM »
Good question, Diner. It's still called a Gorgonzola, regardless of the rind. Sailor gave me great direction on letting the rind just do its thing. At first, I scraped and scraped during aging, but I find that letting the rind develop the wonderful molds enhances the interior and protects it to form a much creamier paste. I would suggest trying it both ways and comparing for yourself--and of course, post your findings. Good luck!
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 08:43:10 AM »
Brie - It's call Bleu Wunder, but I had the wrong dairy. It is the centerpiece cheese in the last issue of Culture with a story several pages before the one on the Italian water buffalo cheese. They do not really reveal any tricks to getting a blue Swiss, so I am still completely stumped about why the CO2 produced by P. shermanii doesn't choke off the P. roquefortii. In a Stilton, Gorg, or other blue, we poke holes to get EXTRA air into the body of the cheese. Obviously you can't do that with a Swiss, so I'm scratching my head on this one. I've made Blue Gouda in the past too. Turned out OK, but my customers prefer the Stiltons.
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 09:45:56 AM »
Brie,

I keep looking at your picture of that Gorgonzola. It combines that creaminess I love about Gorgonzola but without the sticky, tacky exterior that sometimes comes with it, which I find slightly repulsive. I haven't made a Gorgonzola yet. I was planning to take the plunge this week but realized I would be away for a couple days so maybe not a good idea. How much milk went into that cheese? I would only use 2 gallons. I would love to let a rind form but would my size cheese end up all rind? Alright, I'm feeling oddly anxious about making this cheese, the longest aging cheese so far.   :-\  I resolve to actually do it in two weeks when I have a day off to do the PM/AM thing. Instead of the Gorgonzola I made my first Reblochon instead!

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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 03:08:28 PM »
This Gorg is 3 gallons and it does not form a thick rind. Keep us posted on your Reblochon--one of my favorite cheeses!
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Re: Gorgonzola Pic -- Castle Blue
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2012, 01:23:46 PM »
This is an old thread but I'm hoping for some feedback on a recent 200 Recipes Castle Blue botch from some of you experienced blue makers.

I've made Ricki's blue cheese successfully as well as many Camemberts and some pressed cheeses.  Was hopeful on the Castle Blue, but after forming beautiful cheeses, and only having a few temperature issues with a new/old wine fridge, it took a long time to grow blue mold and then the cheeses became tan colored and ammonia smelling with the rind too large for the inside.  When I cut one open a week early it was oozy and tasted like Camembert (nice, but strong) with some blue sections.  Today at full aging, the taste has gone to overripe Camembert and ammonia, and my chickens will be eating well.

A few questions/concerns:   

After the 1" curds were cut, the recipe calls for gentle stirring until the curds begin to clump (about 20 mins). I had difficulty retaining the larger curds while stirring so they more like 1/2" at best.

The recipe makes 3 cheeses, to be salted with '3/4 tsp on the tops and again on other side.'  I used 3/4 tsp PER cheese, per side.  Would excess salt have delayed the blue mold?

In the tips section, it says too much moisture would cause the slipskin and fast ripening ... but the slow mold growth would be too dry.  Here are a few photos, feedback would be appreciated as I want to eat this cheese!

Thank you.

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