Thank you both...Yeah Karen, that's what I meant. I don't want to take short cuts "obviously" but with calving and keeping up with the farm jobs I just want a little push with the clabber and didn't know if I could use my "cheating" version of raw milk clabber. It's hard where I'm at because the weather is so changeable and it can be cold one second and warm the next. My Grandmother in-law lives right down the road and has made cheese for about 75 years using the clabber method that you talk about Karen. She of course can't remember it being so difficult
Maybe it was her cows...who knows. However, the clabber I made with the bought buttermilk and the raw milk tastes really good. Not the same as the mother culture I used to make with the pasteurized milk but like LinuxBoy said it is a hybrid and definitely taste like it. I will try to make some cheese with it and see how it comes out. Thank you all. It's nice to have so many different takes on everything...really informative!