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Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« on: June 30, 2011, 10:33:55 AM »
So I am at the point in my endeavor where 10 dose packets of all of the various starters is very expensive. Where is the best place to buy Direct set cultures in bulk.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 06:10:10 PM »
You need to explore Mother Cultures.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 08:03:53 PM »
I'd second Sailor's suggestion.  His method has proved a boon, to me, and on a larger scale, I think you'll realize not only a more consistent ripening, but some real cost savings.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 10:31:07 PM »
If you want the ease of direct set cultures, you can buy larger quantities from Glengarry Cheesemaking Supply (http://www.glengarrycheesemaking.on.ca/) and Danlac Canada (http://www.danlac.com/). If you're looking for an American company, there's probably a few of them around, but I'm not the person to ask since I live in Canada.

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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 05:40:43 AM »
Which cultures? It really depends what you need. Also, as already said, look into using mother cultures that are primed from DVI starters for each generation.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 10:06:50 AM »
I have used mother cultures in the past and while they are more cost effective I have found the ease of direct set to far out weigh the price.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 02:51:43 PM »
Steff,

I use Mother Cultures every day. I don't do it for the price. I do it for the "ease" and consistency, which translates to better cheese. It is very difficult to make minor adjustments with dry culture. How do you reduce your starter 1/16 tsp??? I don't know anyone that can measure that accurately. Maybe if you were using a gram scale. OTOH, it's easy to remove 1/8 cup of MC. As a pro, I can't imagine going back to DVI.
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2011, 06:31:11 AM »
Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, Sailor and I mean starting a new generation using DVI for each batch of mother starter. We don't mean using a bulk system where you inoculate using the previous batch.

If you develop a good workflow where you include this approach of using DVI for each mother starter, it does not take very long to do. But I do understand the convenience of DVI :)

Which starters, Steff?
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Re: Starter Cultures - Direct Set vs Mother Cultures
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2011, 09:48:05 AM »
Specifically MA4001, MA11-14-16, MA100,Thermo B and Thermo C

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