LL, good another Cali Girl, I'm in SF, my GF went to UCSC. I'm a big clover fan as I used to live in Sonoma County but I've never used it for cheese, but will try it based on your recommendation. I've never used it as it's so expensive compared to other milks. At whole foods it's $4 a gallon. Right now I'm using Bayview Farms from Luckys which was suggested by SayCheese who is in Martinez, I think. I'll try clover next time.