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Offline Annie

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Hi everyone!

I have two questions: 1. Oops--this is so embarrassing  :-[ I brine my cheese in a crockpot in my cheese fridge. I couldn't see into it very clearly and forgot I had a cheese in there! So, it was in there for a few days (yes, my whole record-keeping system broke down! But I have already ordered the edible ink pens...) Anyway, when I took off the top, it smelled fermented--or not quite fermented like beer is fermented, but more like when I do saurkraut with whey. Fizzy--it smelled fizzy. And there were some coagulated ? places in the brine, where there was a sort of solid cloud that I could lift out?

Since nothing smelled bad, I put the cheese up to dry, but thought I would ask about that, despite the fact that possibly no one knows about this since maybe nobody has ever by mistake left a cheese in the brine for way too long. (I did get rid of that brine, tho.)(Gee, maybe I should have drunk it?)


2. Y'all may recall that since I use an old fridge for my cheese that I had trouble with the cheeses dehydrating. I experimented with different things (like boiling the cheeses), and the thing that seems to work, at least if the cheese is only a little far gone, is re-soaking it in whey. Does anyone have any idea about this, again considering that probably no one has ever dehydrated their cheese like this?

I have also ordered a hygrometer :)

Thanks so much, everyone!!!!

Thanks :)


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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 10:21:51 AM »
I'm sorry I have no answers for you, but hope that bumping this up will get some attention to your questions.

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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 10:36:48 AM »
I'm sorry I have no answers for you, but hope that bumping this up will get some attention to your questions.
Thanks so much, Mrs K :)

So far, the cheese is drying a lot more slowly than my other cheeses--I guess it got a little brine-logged. Keeping an eye on the situation...

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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 02:09:03 PM »
Annie,

Your cheese will probably be a little too salty, but otherwise it should be fine. However, I cannot advocate re-soaking in whey to rehydrate dried cheeses.
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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 03:13:13 PM »
Annie,

Your cheese will probably be a little too salty, but otherwise it should be fine
Thank you :)


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However, I cannot advocate re-soaking in whey to rehydrate dried cheeses.
Why can you not advocate it? (I don't mean that to sound rude, but it might be that you tried it and it didn't work, or that you don't know....that's why I'm asking :) Thanks so much!


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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 05:01:42 PM »
It's not just about cheeses drying out. They need proper temperature and humidity in order to age properly. Otherwise the bacteria and enzymes do not have the right conditions to do their job well. Poor affinage can lead to bitterness, off flavors, and many other defects.  You should focus on proper technique so your cheeses don't need rescuing. :)
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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 06:18:05 PM »
I have to confirm what Sailor just said. Might work for the short term but not a good idea. Grate it and make soup, salad or pizza. Grated cheeses of all kinds can add lots of new flavors to your dishes. Once grated even a dry cheese will melt into a liquid.

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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 06:43:35 PM »
There's a challenge in rehydrating cheese. The challenge is that as the surface becomes water logged, two things happen:
1) It inhibits water permeation inside the body, so you'd get a thin layer of more moist cheese, followed by dry stuff
2) Unless well balanced for ph and calcium, whey will damage the outer cheese surface.

The best way to add water again is to shred the cheese and make it into processed cheese. Anything else will leave you with gradients. If there's no way to control aging better (waxing, vacuum sealing, etc), then I would eat them a tad younger.

But generally, no, there's no good way to remedy temperature or humidity abused cheese... it will lose fat and/or water, and no way to get it back.
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Re: Brine Yeast Fermented - Impact On Cheese / Rehydrating Cheese
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 12:18:46 AM »
Thank you all, that was very clear :)

We have mostly used the "rehydrated" cheeses for grating--they were really difficult to grate when they were hard! Altho I have to admit--I now have enough cheese that I don't need to worry about the dehydrated ones... and with my new hygrometer, hopefully there won't be any more :)