Author Topic: First Cantal **Update - recipe correction** awesome at 90 days.  (Read 2806 times)

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This is my Cantal make of April 16, 2012.  After reading so many fascinating details concerning this cheese and the differing experiences including the difficulty of pressing and making it work with conventional pressing methods, I figured I would give it a shot with my stainless spring assisted press.   I upgraded to a 100lb spring before committing to this make.

**update** I had a note to self on top of my notes: one gallon with no creamline and transcribed that into my thread to read as a one gallon recipe.  Corrected to two. Don't know why I didn't catch my error despite multiple comments about the size.  And the images of a two gallon wheel.

Two Gallons raw Jersey milk.
¼ tsp. MM100
½ tsp single strength veal rennet

April 16
4:06pm: Milk to 87F, add ¼ tsp MM100, let hydrate 5 min
4:12pm:  Stir down, ripen 15 min
4:30pm: Temperature overshot to 88F – 89F – 90F over 15 min.
4:30pm: Stirred down 1 tsp rennet
4:35pm: Already flocked at 5 min
4:46pm: Milk already coagulated
4:50pm: Cut curds to pea size and let rest 5 min.  Temperature at 88F
5:00pm: Drained huge amount of curds
5:15pm: Pressed light for 12 hours
April 17
5:15am: Rewrapped and pressed light for 12 hours.
5:10pm: Unwrapped, milled to ¼” and salted with 1 ½ tbs flake salt.
5:15pm: Packed milled curds and pressed hard for 36 hours, recipe calls for 48 hours.
10:15pm: Rewrapped and continued hard press.
April 18
5:15am: Rewrapped and continue very hard for 12 hours.
5:15pm: Rewrapped and continue very hard for 12  hours.
April 19
5:15am:  Unwrapped to dry.  Rind is pretty well consolidated.
7:30pm: Place in sealed ripening box in cave @ 50F
April 21
9:30am: Washed ring with brine/vinegar
Continue to ripen in container @ 50F – 52F @ 85 – 90 rH washing every two days with brine/vinegar
« Last Edit: July 16, 2012, 10:06:12 PM by Dulcelife »

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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 04:48:26 AM »
Nice effort, looks like it turned out well, Cantal much like cheddar is a hard cheese to press. I am not a big fan of this cheese but I have made a few myself, mainly to push the limits of my press. You may want to wax or vacuum bag it within the next week or so, as it will become very dry during aging on a 1 lb make. I have two comments that I hope will help you in the future,  Try to make at least a two to four gal batch, you will find it is easier to control the whole process as well as temps and you can age it with a natural rind if you choose. I am not a fan of spring presses as they cannot provide consistent pressure and require several adjustments during pressing. If you are serious about making hard cheeses you may want to look into a better press that will take you into the long haul. However a great looking cheese and may it taste as good as it looks.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 05:26:35 AM by Devon »

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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 10:25:39 PM »
Thank you for the advise Devon.  I will probably invest in something more elaborate if I every reach the point where a make fails with what I have.  I kind of like the Hands-on aspects of the spring press.  It's like I get some feedback on what's going on when I come back and either find it loose or still tight.

On the Cantal, I took your advise and sealed it up in hand-vacuumed bag for aging.


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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 01:08:40 PM »
Sliced into this cheese last night at the 50 day point.

I did so for a couple of reasons other than my impatience.

- Read that the young version is aged one month and called Cantal jeune.
- Read that aged at two to six months is considered medium mature; referred to as entredeux.
- This was my fourth make and still learning: used too much culture and probably rennet too.
- I overshot my target temperature and over-stirred the curds.  Can you say n.e.w.b.e.e.?
- This was a small make for the variety.

Well, it is a very firm cheese; taking moderate pressure to cut into.  Let the piece rest at room temperature before sampling it.

It's a cheddar alright.  Nice paste, not as crumbly as I was expecting after all the make missteps.
Tastes like a lightly aged cheddar of about 3 months. It's mouth feel: almost like hard Gouda especially close to the rind. Has notable acidity of an aged cheddar but not bitter and not unpleasant. I expected this make to be over-acidified but it is not.

Conclusion:  I am pretty happy with this wheel so far and I will have no trouble aging for another couple of months for comparison as I already have others cheese I can nibble at.  This is not a make I will repeat for now.  It's similarity to cheddar with no real "standout" attributes to distinguish it from and the complexity and time of the make do not warrant the investment in time in my honest opinion.

I have grown fond of creamy Havarti of late.  So, maybe its time to make a go at it.




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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 01:25:36 PM »
Looks pretty good. I think the 1/4 tsp MM100 for 1 gallon milk might be a little heavy. That's what I would use for a 4 gallon make.

You seem to be cranking out the cheeses.  :)

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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 11:26:49 PM »
Boofer, absolutely right about the excess culture.  Its amazing how stupid things look after you gain a bit of knowledge.  This is one of the reasons I cut into it early.  I figured it would be ahead of its time given the amount of culture, the high temperature and the aggressive stirring.  And, in fact it is is.  Extremely edible though and the texture and mouth feel is not bad either.

Lessons learned for sure!

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Re: First Cantal
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 12:06:36 AM »
WOW! that looks very nice, my mouth waters every time I see that cheesy porn :o
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Re: First Cantal **Update - recipe correction** awesome at 90 days.
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 11:50:34 PM »
After hearing/reading iratherfly and Pav discussing Cantal-like Tommes  on another thread I remembered the Cantal lurking in the cave and a quick look confirmed 91 days of age.  This was an unimpressive cheese two months ago when I noted I would not be making it again any time soon.  Well as I've been told time and again, ageing matters.  Well I am a convert.

What we have here now is a totally different cheese from what I tasted two months ago.  Very sharp, pungent, nutty and just full flavored.  I am a fan of extra sharp and this fits the bill.  That kind of sharp one wants to savor in thin slivers since that's all that's required for a mouthful of flavor, if that makes sense.  The DW loved it too!  Yay.  Okay, okay, I got it now.  Age the buggers and savor the fruit of the labor.

Right Sailor?  Whats the rush.   ::)

Well this one goes to the top of my list being so easy, albiet long to make.

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Re: First Cantal **Update - recipe correction** awesome at 90 days.
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 12:43:09 AM »
And a cheese comes to those who wait!  It's important to sample things along the way, because only then do you realize that things do get better with age.

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Re: First Cantal **Update - recipe correction** awesome at 90 days.
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 11:42:53 AM »
Thank you Jeff.  I am out of excuses for opening cheese early since I got a trier from a great little eBayer in Britain: Gardensmock.  It's a bit big for my makes but still a small plug is better than cutting into the wheels.

It is an antique (C1900. English. Stamped W. MARPLES & SON. SHEFFIELD. ENGLAND), with a bit of pitting so I will need to sterilize really well.


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Re: First Cantal **Update - recipe correction** awesome at 90 days.
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 02:02:14 PM »
Yea! Good to hear you found a treasure, both in the aged cheese and in the trier. Most excellent.

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