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Title: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 16, 2013, 12:57:21 PM
Two days ago I purchased another plastic tote to store cheese in.  I did so because I have been meanign to try to make some type of blue cheese since I started making cheese however my current tote is full with washed rind Port Salut and Limburger.  Not the best of environments to make a blue. 
So I bought a tote, jacked the humidity and decided to make a stilton.  Started with 2% milk and 35% cream and used the recipe from artisan cheese makign at home.  Innoculated the milk with C101 mesophillic and a pinch of penicillium roqueforti.  So far I am a coupel days in, the cheese tastes amazing  ;D and it hasnt even really started to grow mold yet.  Only problem.. the cheese was super crumbly and did not not stick together so well.  I have two big cracks in the cheese and I fully expect I will have to cut it into wedges.

Anyone have any guesses as to why this happened?
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 16, 2013, 01:06:17 PM
Im thinking I didnt quite cut the curds into small enough pieces but the recipe says to leave in slabs and cut later.  I almost think it woudl be better to do the cutting right away.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: H-K-J on April 17, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
I never cut the curd on my Stiltons (http://cocker-spanial-hair-in-my-food.blogspot.com/2012/08/5-gallon-stilton-style-blue-cheese-8412.html), just ladle large chunks (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j8k2W4I4ZL4/UB7wwA3V5zI/AAAAAAAAAsA/tq4CGt1hRJM/s1600/STA74424.JPG) into my cheesecloth lined colander, drain (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PG0ng4M2ItY/UB7w37VK9FI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/66S3sm_pTEw/s1600/STA74429.JPG), lightly press (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kBEm2JSP0dI/T9uTAvJOugI/AAAAAAAAAgk/NotuZIWR8xQ/s1600/STA74249.JPG) for 6 to 8 hours,
break up the curd mass into thumb sized chunk's (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tbNn3vDRPP0/UCEtsyp8YTI/AAAAAAAAAt4/SKuJxytVaGQ/s1600/STA74439.JPG), salt, place in mold (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Od-ifcX7G6Y/UCEt0wbUJBI/AAAAAAAAAuI/XG1eJgQXbgs/s1600/STA74447.JPG) and start flippin out ;)
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 17, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Thanks for yourt take!  Im hoping as it softens I can save it but we will see.  Next time i will try smaller curds.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 18, 2013, 11:34:17 AM
My stilton is coming along quite nicely.  After only two days in the cave a small amount of blue mold is starting to grown in the cracks. 
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: george on April 18, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
To go back to the original post (sorry I didn't catch this before) -

Stiltons are usually much taller - you generally want more height than width (sort of).  Since it's pressed under its own weight, my thought is that the reason it has so many large cracks is because it was too short - not enough weight goin' on to get it to knit better. 

Personally, though, I don't think it's a problem.  You'll probably want to be very careful with the humidity, make sure the short flat form isn't allowing it to dry out too much - but hey, cracks in a blue cheese?  More room for blue!

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.   A)
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 18, 2013, 12:41:46 PM
Thanks George.  Your assessment is most likely correct.  After much thought that was the conclusion I was drawing as well.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Also, i checked my cave this mroning and low and behole the blue is starting to take off!
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: Tomer1 on April 18, 2013, 05:12:08 PM
Look at it this way, at 2-3 weeks it will likely be ready to eat.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 19, 2013, 07:10:37 PM
My stilton smells distinctly like mushrooms and there is some white mold growing on the surface (geo?)
is this normal?
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: H-K-J on April 20, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
Have pix's?
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 20, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
Here are a few pics of the cheese right now
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: bbracken677 on April 20, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
Looking good!  What is that other cheese in the last pic?

It looks like you have some PC growing on it in addition to the blue...not really a problem, I think. I typically get all kinds of growths on my blues after the outside blue begins to die down some.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 20, 2013, 10:56:41 PM
The other cheese is a coastal blue.  Thanks for the input.  I was worried my stilton was contaminated.  also, another update, it seems the stilton has already started to soften on the outside.  Parts of the rind are kinda soft.  From what I read this is normal though.

Anywho, ill keep you all posted with more pics as it progresses.
Thanks!
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 23, 2013, 05:57:47 PM
I am definitely experiencing some softening of the outter part of the cheese immediately beneath the rind.  I am guessing this has something to do with the PC that is growing?
Its pretty soft right now.  I hope it doesnt fall apart!
More pics to follow tonight!
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 23, 2013, 11:12:06 PM
Pics of the stilton this evening.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on April 30, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
I decided to cut into the stilton early as it was getting very soft.  What a rookie mistake!  Cheese was good but I know it could have been so much better If I had just resisted the urge.  I think I will try this cheese again, only this time I will put it in the appropriate mold.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: shotski on April 30, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
how old was it ? God knows it is Sooooooooooooooooooo hard to resist cutting into them.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: H-K-J on May 01, 2013, 01:14:05 AM
Bin there done that :-[
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: steffb503 on May 01, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
I had the very same issue with the first Stilton I made. It was ready in 4 weeks and it tastes amazing.
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on May 01, 2013, 12:40:51 PM
I think it was only 3 wweks old or so.  Still it was pretty good.  Im reserving myself to wait the full term for the coastal blue and jarlsberg I have going right now
Title: Re: My First Stilton
Post by: KTownCheese on May 13, 2013, 12:26:12 PM
Just an update, the stilton is gone.  It seemed that a week or two in foil in the fridge really set this cheese straight.  The taste developed into an amazing blue/brie blend.  Quite the treat!