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Title: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:27:46 AM
As today is Friday 13th and it's lucky for me as I just got one more paycheck (work in oil business), I'm making my first batch of Limburger Washed Rind Cheese based on this Limburger Cheese Making Recipe (http://cheeseforum.org/Recipes/Recipe_Limburger.htm) and additional info from:

MAKING

AGING


NOTES
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:28:07 AM
Pictures #1 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:28:19 AM
Pictures #2 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:28:30 AM
Pictures #3 . . .
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Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:28:42 AM
Pictures #4 . . .
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Post by: Cheese Head on February 11, 2009, 04:29:07 AM
Pictures #5 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 11, 2009, 07:00:03 AM
John, you know what I'm going to say, So I'll spare you..

Really though this is going to be interesting, I thought it was just the red bacteria not P. Candidum too?
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 13, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
Carter, the recipe I have has P. candidum as an option, I made this batch without it.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: chilipepper on February 13, 2009, 05:07:13 PM
John, good luck and thanks for taking this one on! It will certainly be interesting to hear your reports of how this one goes!  I just picked up some of this to try this weekend... I think I'll wait until after valentines day however! :)
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Tea on February 14, 2009, 07:39:42 PM
mmmm I too will be watching this one with interest.  I have decided for now, that I am not going to try this one, as I don't want my family banning me from making cheese ever again.

So keep the pics coming.  This is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 14, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
That's a lot of limberger, good luck, looks good so far.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 14, 2009, 10:03:33 PM
I agree with everyone else....
I will be watching your progress on this one closely.
Since it's not going to make my house uninhabitable, I'm thrilled at the thought of seeing one of these made from start to finish.
Good luck! Hope it gets all stinky and putrid for you.  :D

Dave
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: chilipepper on February 14, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
teehee... there goes the resale value on your home! :)
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Tea on February 14, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Lol do you think it is not wise to mention this to the Real Estate Agent?  :D
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 15, 2009, 12:23:42 AM
Isn't it amazing how nice and cute those little wheels look at this stage?
It's sort of like a horror movie where you see a seemingly nice and cute young lady that eventually is revealed to be a horrible axe murderer.
Not sure that this is an analogy that makes sense right now, but I'm sure that Ryan will know what I mean after he actually gives his limburger the taste test.  ;D

Dave
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 15, 2009, 05:16:05 AM
Kind of scarying me now Dave. :o
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 15, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
LOL....
But don't you see what I'm saying?
Those cheeses look nice and cute right now.
Who would ever guess that they are going to turn into the equivalent of an environmental nightmare?
When I think of someone driving by John's house over the next few months, I hear Louden WainWright III's song "Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road", in my head:
Take a whiff on me that ain't no rose....
Roll up you windows and hold your nose...
You don't have to look and you don't have to see cause you can feel it in your olfactory.


Dave
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 15, 2009, 10:06:26 PM
Hmmm..
Now I've scared myself since I know that song AND the "artist" that sang it.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 15, 2009, 10:19:52 PM
Dave find your happy place.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 17, 2009, 03:58:42 AM
LOL, Carter....got a little carried away there.

Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 18, 2009, 01:06:46 AM
Well the dream has started and so has an environmental nightmare.

The dream comes true: At 4 days age the cheeses are a little slimey/slippery, OK I actually don;t know if they are supposed to be that way.

The environmental nightmare: A little blue mold has appeared on two of the Limburgers! See picture above. Somehow, and there are 100 ways to get contamination, making Stilton, Camembert and Limburger all at the same time has caught up to me and is not such a good idea!

Will soldier on.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 18, 2009, 01:21:02 AM
It's hard John. Since I noticed some blue mold on the underside of a bamboo mat a week ago in the parm cave I now have a professional spray bottle, for window washing because I bought a whole pack of the cheap ones and went through the entire pack the first day they are such pieces of junk, anyway I now just spray star san the night before on everything in the kitchen and everything that can fit in the dishwasher goes in for 2 cycles, one with a little soap and then another cycle just for rinse.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 20, 2009, 12:04:35 AM
Well sugar! My 4 Limburgers have all got the blues >:(.

Posted another picture above. As you can see the blue is now appearing to be the dominant mold over the B linens "red" mold as they are also less slippery.

I think there is no way to stop the blue on my 4 small Limburgers, forward options I can think of are:

Appreciate any thoughts and way forward advice . . . John, with the blues.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Likesspace on February 20, 2009, 01:35:58 AM
John,
Have you tried a white vinegar rub?
Blue mold loves salt, so that won't work. Vinegar might if you are diligent enough.
Of course you will also remove the b.linens but you can always re-spray them if you get the blue under control.
Just thinking out loud here since this is a cheese I've never considered making.
Good luck.
Regardless, you will end up with SOME kind of cheese. You might even come up with a blue that's stinky enough for even the strongest tastes.

Dave
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 20, 2009, 02:08:37 AM
Dave could be right you may have invented another cheese.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on February 22, 2009, 03:10:54 PM
Last night I wrapped my 4 little monstrosities in Aluminum Foil, pictures above, how I wrapped pictures posted here (http://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,1104.msg7998.html#msg7998), and placed them in household fridge to "ripen".

As you can see in the before wrapping picture above, there is an all out war on my cheeses between the P candidum blue mold and the B linens bacteria, on some cheeses the blue appears to be winning on others the B linens.

I'll unwrap one of these devils in a couple weeks to see what horror lies within.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cartierusm on February 23, 2009, 07:41:10 AM
I'd wear safety goggles J/K. Don't give up you may have invented a very unique cheese.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on April 07, 2009, 12:25:33 AM
Well didn't want to look but at eVenom's push I opened one tonight, pictures close to start of this thread.

Opened at age 52 days. Very soft and moist, somewhat leaking, not visually appealing :o. Cheese texture varied between moist and soft, flavour was lightly blue from outside but inside more like some of my too moist Camemberts.

Think too warm in early aging and cheese did not like humidity barrier of almunium foil, as could not breath. Chucked 3/4 of cheese . . . 3 more to go!
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: eVenom on April 07, 2009, 03:57:23 AM
Wow!!! Thouse are some nasty pictures even worst than Carter's Cheddar!!

I really like Limburger and I like Blues But I don't know about this "Limburblue"

It is Scary!!

Well keep us posted on the Other 3 that are left

When will be the Next Unavailing???
Title: Re: John's Cheese #035 - Limburger #1
Post by: Cheese Head on April 07, 2009, 08:06:11 AM
The other three are as soft as this one has become so I think extra age is just going to make them worse . . . wish I had wrapped a couple in white Camembert wraps to see if different.