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Title: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on September 14, 2012, 11:11:55 PM
Following the advice of a number of forum members, tomorrow's Gouda will include cumin seeds.  So, I'm calling it Gouda #5/Leiden #1.  I've reviewed Boofer's Leiden thread, and am now boiling my seeds.  I will let them soften up in the water over-night.  We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Boofer on September 15, 2012, 01:13:10 AM
My recipe from 200 Easy Cheeses called for 2 tablespoons of seeds. I cut that to 1 tablespoon which seemed just right. I also included the water/"broth" that the seeds were boiled in when adding to the curds. I seem to recall DJDebi using too many seeds and ending up with something she wasn't happy with. Mine was a pleasantly cumin'd cheese...with tender, soft seeds.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on September 15, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
Thanks, Boofer.  I'm using a little over half a tbsp with 2 gallons of milk.  I used Hoeklijn's 50-75 grams/100 liters, and measured out close to 4 grams--a little on the low side, but I think it should be good.  I'll also be including the "broth"--that seemed like a great idea.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on September 15, 2012, 07:25:46 PM
Okay--here they are coming out of the brine.  Each weighing in at 1.06 lbs--nice splitting, eh?
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: bbracken677 on September 15, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
Nice looking cheeses there! Good job on the split   :)

I have yet to put any non-cheese foodstuffs in mine yet. I saw one make someone did that had blueberries in it that looked positively scrumptious! The cumin seeds should also make a very interesting flavor enhancement!

How is the smell of the cheeses?  One of my favorite things is to set my drying cheeses next to my laptop so I can smell them as I work.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on September 16, 2012, 12:27:23 AM
bbracken,

This was the first time I added anything to a cheese.  So far so good.  I noticed the cumin smell while I was making the cheese, but now it smells the same as the other Goudas.  I did enjoy the cumin seeds I ate as I consumed the flashing...is that what you call the thin extruded portions that sneak past the follower?  That's what I'd call them if they were metal in a forge.

I agree that the blueberry cheeses that I've seen look fantastic.

My wife thinks it's funny that you like to smell your cheeses while you work.  Don't feel bad, she thinks I'm odd for making cheese and particularly odd that I participate in an on-line forum for cheese makers.  Geez--can a guy get a break?  But, she also thinks I'm adorable (she made me write that...).
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: bbracken677 on September 16, 2012, 08:11:20 AM
My wife has taken to calling me "the cheesehead" so I guess I need to start rooting for the Greenbay Packers LOL.

I have always had a love for cheese...just had little experience with the artisan cheeses and had no idea that I could make cheese until my son-in-law began brewing...his brewer supplier also carried a few cheesemaking supplies and that is what got me started. Now I am hooked!  lol

The learning, the crafting, and the potential to eventually make something that tastes exceptional is just fascinating. I have only taste-tested one cheese I have made so far (the rest are still aging) and it wasn't aged out ripe yet, but shows great potential! Not sure some of my earlier cheeses will wow me, but I am feeling like (in the crafting of them) I am making great strides...and I have slowly accumulated materials that will allow me to take the next steps forward as I continue to broaden my understanding of the craft.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Boofer on September 16, 2012, 12:00:41 PM
Hello fellow cheese fanatics ;).

Good job, Mike. You cut the cheese in two? I tried that once (http://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,6444.0.html) and had a little trouble with the cut side healing and developing rind properly. Someone else had a similar experience as well. Fingers crossed, Mike.  :-\

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on September 16, 2012, 02:20:54 PM
bbracken: I, too, have always loved cheese.  As a boy, I used to get a 5 lb loaf of cheddar for Christmas each year (my mom thought I was odd then, too, but she was accommodating).  I've only been making cheese with genuine effort for a few months, now.  I learn more each time and wish that the cheeses that are aging could also have the benefit of my current knowledge, but until I perfect time travel, I'll have to be satisfied with the same process everyone goes through.

Boofer: Thanks for the vote of confidence.  We'll see how it turns out, but I think it should be okay.  I cut it right after pressing under whey, and then pressed each of the halves separately for the remaining pressing regime.  I would have pressed each separately under the whey, but the I didn't have both molds ready at the time.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Mike Richards on January 06, 2013, 11:12:56 AM
I opened this guy up last month and enjoyed 1/4 of it.  Yesterday I pulled the other 1/4 out and shared some with my mom (she's visiting from the East Coast).  She was impressed, as we all have been with this cheese.  It turned out really well.

[img width= height= alt=Leiden on a bowl]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/16575_274091612716286_162525204_n.jpg[/img]

The cumin flavor was just perfect--not too strong, not too weak.  It also wasn't unpleasant to mash down on a seed itself (like I thought it might have been).  The cheese had a slight "pickled" smell when I first pulled it out of the bag (this was the first cheese I bagged).  I think it was a little too moist (because the acid level dropped too quick and I didn't cook it long enough) when it went in the bag.  Regardless, it was/is great.

I'll let the remaining half continue to age until ... I eat it. :)
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Schnecken Slayer on January 06, 2013, 11:29:51 AM
That's a nice looking cheese, well done.
I had not heard of Leiden 3 months ago but now I am glad I did.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: JeffHamm on January 06, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
Nice one.  I get a funny aroma from bagged and waxed cheeses as well.  It will fade as you air it out though. 

- Jeff
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Boofer on January 06, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Good job, Mike. A cheese to your success. Looks very edible.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: shotski on May 21, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
Looks very nice Mike. I just came across this thread as I am planning on making a Gouda with cumin in the next couple of days. Thanks everyone for the great information shared here.

 Question , What is the main difference between Leiden and Gouda?


Thanks

John
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Schnecken Slayer on May 22, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
Looks very nice Mike. I just came across this thread as I am planning on making a Gouda with cumin in the next couple of days. Thanks everyone for the great information shared here.

 Question , What is the main difference between Leiden and Gouda?

Thanks

John

I think Leiden is the town the cheese was originally made in and it is simply a gouda with cumin seeds added.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: Boofer on May 22, 2013, 08:26:34 AM
Looks very nice Mike. I just came across this thread as I am planning on making a Gouda with cumin in the next couple of days. Thanks everyone for the great information shared here.

 Question , What is the main difference between Leiden and Gouda?

Thanks

John

I think Leiden is the town the cheese was originally made in and it is simply a gouda with cumin seeds added.
That's my understanding, but I will defer to the guy who lives next door to both cities...Herman.  ;)

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: jwalker on May 22, 2013, 09:18:57 AM
That does look great , Gouda seems to be a cheese that goes well with other flavors added to it.

Where we used to live there was a couple who had a small artisan cheese company , we used to buy 2 year old Gouda with dill , or garlic , they were both very good.

I have a Gouda of my own with Dill , aging right now , hoping to leave it for a year , and start another one in the meantime , possibly with Garlic this time.

A cheese to you !

Cheers , Jim.
Title: Re: Richards' Gouda #5/Leiden #1
Post by: jwalker on May 22, 2013, 09:22:45 AM
My wife has taken to calling me "the cheesehead" so I guess I need to start rooting for the Greenbay Packers LOL.

Hey , even us Cheeseheads don't root for the Packers ! ;D