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Title: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on January 21, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Made this yesterday (http://cocker-spanial-hair-in-my-food.blogspot.com/2013/02/caerphilly-cheese.html), went fairly well just a few stress points, some things turned out different.
One thing I personally changed was curd size cut, wanted more moisture in this one and cut the curd larger.
Now on the other hand mother nature changed the house temp, outside temp, RH, which in turn changed heating times, cook time and who knows what else.
After cooking, draining, milling and salting the curd seemed dryer almost reminiscent of my first Swiss that fell apart.
But everything turned out in the finale pressing, knit look's good and I believe we got more cheese.
All in all we can deal with it, one good thing, we'll know in 3 or 4 weeks instead of months ;D
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: JeffHamm on January 21, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
HI H-K-J,

You can also increase the floc time from 3X to 3.5X, or even 4X, to help get a moister result.  Often, longer floc and larger curd size go together, although there are exceptions.  I believe Dave has done this with caerphilly and has found this to be very much to his taste.

- Jeff
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on January 21, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
Thanks Jeff I guess I didn't add that I raised the flock time to 3.5 with the larger curd cut still not sure why it feels dryer than the first one :-\
I also didn't press over night with the heavier weight, only used 200 lbs at the follower (3.75 psi) for 8 hrs.
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: JeffHamm on January 21, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
Hi H-K-J,

It will be interesting to see how this one turns out.  It looks like a really good make.  Well done.

- Jeff
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Tiarella on January 21, 2013, 09:17:42 PM
It's exciting to me that your new cheese, just out of the press, already has it's own tape measure!   :D
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on January 21, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
LOL ;D
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Al Lewis on January 22, 2013, 01:26:03 AM
Nice pictures!!!  Nice cheese too!!  Great job!! ;D
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: george on January 22, 2013, 10:52:42 AM
Puppy in the background!  Puppy in the background!   :)
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: bbracken677 on January 22, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
That looks an awful lot like a cocker spaniel that used to own me!  Love cockers...
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on January 22, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
Yes they own us, the b/w is Winston and the blond is Sandy ^-^
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Al Lewis on January 22, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
Beautiful dogs.  We use to have a Springer Spaniel wheen we first got married.  Amazing dog that was smart as a whip and loved everyone.  Last dog was a wolf hybrid and a very loving member of the family. 
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: george on January 23, 2013, 10:48:52 AM
Puppies in the foreground!  Puppies in the foreground!   :)   :)   :)
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on February 05, 2013, 12:04:12 AM
Little bit of a blue dusting on this today so did a nice wine brine wash.
Its 2 weeks old, looks and smells great :)
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: JeffHamm on February 05, 2013, 02:09:52 AM
Big thumbs up to you on that one.  Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Al Lewis on February 05, 2013, 02:28:50 AM
Looking great!  Hope mine looks that good! :'(
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Vina on February 11, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
Your cheese looks fantastic!
as a newbee I am wondering about the procedure - how brine wash is done
- first you brush all blues
- than apply brine?
or any oher techs?

thanks!
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on February 11, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
Hi Vina
Quote
- first you brush all blues
- than apply brine?
or any oher techs?

I have been using a wine brine, if I am seeing blue, using a very soft brush, I dip it in the wash and brush the cheese aggressive enough to create a slurry on the top and side, the next day, flip the cheese and wash it again this will get rid of the blue as long as you catch it early,
I have the recipe in my blog notes (http://cocker-spanial-hair-in-my-food.blogspot.com/2013/02/caerphilly-cheese.html) and I am sure it is on the forum, we have had a few threads on this.
Here is a very good one that Alp wrote awhile back (http://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,10633.0.html)
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Vina on February 14, 2013, 07:53:37 AM
many thanks! I'll try your method as I'm fighting with blues now in my cave :( actually I use coarse brush and brush my cheeses aggressively.
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: Tiarella on February 14, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
With the leaf adorned Caerphillys I get LOTS of blue and I just keep wiping it off with a scrap of cheesecloth dipped into the wine,salt,water mix.  Eventually it stops.  Might take weeks of washing it every few days but the taste of the cheese will be fine.  Do not worry.   :D
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on February 14, 2013, 03:27:19 PM
My wife and I think the wash add's a very nice flavor to the cheese,
We gave some of our first Caerphilly to a friend, he said he cut the rind off and was going to throw it away until he tasted it,
He made a toasted cheese sandwich out of it and some off the cheese, he raved about the flavor and how well it melted.
it was almost embarrassing (almost ;))
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: H-K-J on February 18, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
I like it!!

So does the wife, more moisture and the wife says she thinks it has more of a butter flavor to it.
I think the salt is a little strong but not overpowering, the rind was very clean and doesn't have the sweet wine flavor of the last one.
all in all MMMMMmmmmmMmMmMMm ;D
Having tacos withe this and some farm house cheddar shredded up, can't wait ^-^ 
Title: Re: H-K-J's 2nd Caerphilly
Post by: JeffHamm on February 18, 2013, 03:15:55 AM
That's a very nice looking caerphilly!  A cheese to you.  It's not uncommon to get a dusting of geo, or a bit of b.linens forming. 

- Jeff