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Title: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 24, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
Back in the game, working with local friends and farmers, wanting to reacquire the convenient stainless steel tote (12-14 half-gallon mason jars won't do).  Hoping to keep it used and fairly cheap, but will pay what is, is.  Since I will be traveling from farm to home, a good seal or latch-down is helpful.  Thanks, guys. 

Paul
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 24, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Have you tried eBay and also the used dairy equipment places?  Rikki Carrol's site has classified ads I think.  A friend said they have a lot of good ads up.  Also if there are farmer ad sites you cow,d post your WTB ads perhaps?  I think there are some free ads on some on them.  Good luck!!
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 24, 2014, 05:14:37 PM
Thanks, Tiarella, I have done e-bay, but didn't know Ricki's site had ads, thanks.  Hamby has some scratch and dents, but still a bit more than I was hoping for.  I also know of Hoegger's.  Do you have any other sites, you can recommend? 

Cheers!

Paul
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: terry@dairy fab on January 24, 2014, 06:31:37 PM
       You could check out the following source. Hope you find what you are looking for.

       Ullmer's Dairy Equipment
 
       8628 N Brown County Line Rd, Pulaski, WI 54162

       (920) 822-8266

       www.ullmers-dairyequipment.com (http://www.ullmers-dairyequipment.com)

       terry@dairy fab / www.curdknives.com (http://www.curdknives.com)
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 24, 2014, 06:40:21 PM
Terry, thanks much!
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 24, 2014, 08:12:25 PM
Paul,  You have ruined my day.  I did a little google and now all I can think of is how much nice equipment is out there.....the prefect stuff for a really nice cheese make room!!!   >:(  all at prices I can't afford!   :'(  But here's some leads for you:

Oh no, cheese equipment here: http://www.schiercompany.com/ (http://www.schiercompany.com/)

You could get 2 5 gallon.....easier to carry and room for expansion.  Not cheap but  nice: 
http://www.caprinesupply.com/products/milking/milk-handling/5-gallon-stainless-steel-milk-tote.html (http://www.caprinesupply.com/products/milking/milk-handling/5-gallon-stainless-steel-milk-tote.html)

Didn't see anything here but don't cry too much when you see the huge gleaming tanks:
http://www.dairytrainclassifieds.com/ (http://www.dairytrainclassifieds.com/)

Here's links for small dairy equipment:
http://www.smalldairy.info/equipment.htm (http://www.smalldairy.info/equipment.htm)

This place is good and might have something for you:
http://bobwhitesystems.com/index.html (http://bobwhitesystems.com/index.html)

Good luck!!!
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 24, 2014, 08:18:01 PM
BobWhite has 10 quart and you could do several.  Bungee cords could hold top on? 
http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/milk-totes/products/stainless-steel-milk-totes-w-recessed-lid (http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/milk-totes/products/stainless-steel-milk-totes-w-recessed-lid)

5 gallon ones for $189
http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/milk-totes/products/5-gallon-stainless-steel-milk-tote (http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/milk-totes/products/5-gallon-stainless-steel-milk-tote)

Although that's more expensive than Caprine Supply I'd recommend finding out where the product is made.  Getting stuff made near a more radioactive area of the world, or in a country with less quality controls could be a curse.  Some cheap stainless steel stuff from certain countries might have lead in the solder.  Good to check out that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Boofer on January 24, 2014, 08:32:33 PM
Getting stuff made near a more radioactive area of the world, or in a country with less quality controls could be a curse.  Some cheap stainless steel stuff from certain countries might have lead in the solder.
Omigosh, now I have to worry about more stuff! ???

Seriously, these are not the typical concerns one might have had previously, but after the wheat gluten and melamine issues surfaced and probably a majority of goods coming from China, these are genuine causes for concern.

Guess I'll go get in bed and pull the covers over my head. :-\

-Boofer-
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 24, 2014, 09:48:27 PM

Guess I'll go get in bed and pull the covers over my head. :-\

-Boofer-

Don't forget to take a flashlight and a good book!

Seriously, I have gotten some "made in India" stainless steel stuff that was cheaply made, unknown solder and not good seams for cleaning properly.  Sometimes a good to be good to be true is just what you want to avoid!    ;)
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 24, 2014, 11:27:40 PM
Quote
Seriously, I have gotten some "made in India" stainless steel stuff that was cheaply made, unknown solder and not good seams for cleaning properly.  Sometimes a good to be good to be true is just what you want to avoid!

I've not yet bought one of this thinner-gauge makes from India, but in terms of sanitary welding, I couldn't agree more.  It's bad enough in a brewery, where at least even a bad CIP probably won't get someone sick, but in dairy, well....let's just say I'm particular, even on the geeked home level.
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 25, 2014, 04:09:45 AM
Hey!  Here's an 8 gallon one for $189!!!   This sucker is going to weigh a LOT when full.  Do you have someone to hold the other handle?  http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/used-equipment/products/8-gallon-milk-tote (http://bobwhitesystems.com/collections/used-equipment/products/8-gallon-milk-tote)

I think this might be your answer.  Used, in great condition, polished, only one owner (who drove it only on Sunday's to church I think.)
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 25, 2014, 08:38:39 AM
Bingo!  Thanks, Tarella!  Sold!
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 25, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
Bingo!  Thanks, Tarella!  Sold!


Really?  You got it?  Cool!!!  They only had one it sounded like although I imagine they see them on a somewhat regular basis.  Now you're ALL set and you'll be cranking out that cheese.  To heavily increase the excitement may I suggest getting an account here www.fromagex.com (http://www.fromagex.com) so you can drool all over your keyboard?  You've probably been to their site already but if not.........sigh.   They are having trouble with their webpages not loading for many people because of how many redirects are involved but maybe that is only the English language versions?   :)
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 25, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
Oh, I wish I was done, Tiarella - now I'm limited by cave space.  I'm seriously thinking of just renting a small space somewhere, I can put in large refrigerators, wine coolers, etc., and convert...between my baking, gypsy swing playing, and return to cheesemaking, our lowly 2 br is busting at the seams!  I'd die to build something like Jos has built, under the sidewalk...on a search...

Plenty of milk, though!  ;D

ps:  Thanks, too, on the Fromagex.  I knew of them but have never played around on their site.  Great.  Another drooler here.  ;D
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 25, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
Oh, I wish I was done, Tiarella - now I'm limited by cave space.  I'm seriously thinking of just renting a small space somewhere, I can put in large refrigerators, wine coolers, etc., and convert...between my baking, gypsy swing playing, and return to cheesemaking, our lowly 2 br is busting at the seams!  I'd die to build something like Jos has built, under the sidewalk...on a search...

Plenty of milk, though!  ;D

ps:  Thanks, too, on the Fromagex.  I knew of them but have never played around on their site.  Great.  Another drooler here.  ;D

For a cave, what about finding an insulated shipping container to bury or some other sort of insulated structure and using a coolbot and air conditioner for cooling purposes?  one of my cave dreams is to get a couple of insulated stainless steel shipping containers and some how (definitely magical thinking on this wooded hillside) bury them into the earth for a cheese cave and root cellar.  But you could buy an insulated box truck and retrofit or even a cheap shed and then insulate and line with that plastic wall stuff.  I got my plastic wall stuff from FarmTek  We attached it to the walls and caulked where it meets the concrete floor.  Or maybe like J walker get an insulated shipping container and make half of it the make room. 

A lady around here had a cheese dream and outfitted a trailer to code with all the equipment needed and then ran out of money before wiring it and creating septic.  The bank wouldn't loan her anything more so after putting something like $20,000 into it she's had it on the market recently for about $6,000 or something like that.  I think it might be 40' long and towable by semi truck.  Needs a septic hook up....city sewer would be cheapest I guess.  Let me know if you want to find out more about it and I'll search it down.
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 25, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
Tiarella, I need to clarify - this is for home use.  I once gave serious thought and preparation to starting up, but at least as of now, it's all a serious home cheesemaker.  But you've spurred thinking outside the box, thank you. 

Now I'm really showing my ignorance - what's a box truck?  Like, a reefer truck, truck no longer working, something like that?
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 25, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Tiarella, I need to clarify - this is for home use.  I once gave serious thought and preparation to starting up, but at least as of now, it's all a serious home cheesemaker.  But you've spurred thinking outside the box, thank you. 

Now I'm really showing my ignorance - what's a box truck?  Like, a reefer truck, truck no longer working, something like that?

Not sure you're showing your ignorance or mine.  I think that term means one of those trucks that has a cab and then a separate box although all on one chassis.  It could be a box truck that works or gets towed there.  Myself, I don't know what a reefer truck is although now that I say it to myself it sounds like slang for refrigerated, right?

I know about that home use thing.  I fall into that category also because I am not a grade A inspected dairy.  I truly don't want to make cheese every day but I DO want to make more cheese than I can possibly consume without weighing in at 500 pounds.   :P  I do have family and neighbors I give cheese to and I'd consider selling herd shares to at least sell some milk to people when I have too much but it hasn't happened yet.  I think making cheese for profit has got to be one of the most difficult models of production. It's a perishable product and a complicated process impacted by so many variables.  Hard to imagine a profit margin when there's so much time and labor involved.  My flower essence business has a much better profit margin and I'm thinking it's my best "value-added" farm profit possibility other than the sale of breeding stock that is a natural offshoot from the production of milk and meat for our own use. 
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: jwalker on January 25, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
If a person needed extra space and had room to put one , an insulated container like this would be a good option , these guys sell , rent , or rent-to-own , and they deliver as well.

http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-business-industrial-40-ft-steel-shipping-storage-container-2575-Surrey-W0QQAdIdZ561470506 (http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-business-industrial-40-ft-steel-shipping-storage-container-2575-Surrey-W0QQAdIdZ561470506)

Or one of these , an insulated one is best.

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=4881059 (http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=4881059)


  I have one just like it , bought it for $2500 and hauled it to my place , removed the wheels and axles and the front legs and set it down on some old railway ties , it is now a small machine shop at the rear , a cheese cave/wine cellar/root cellar in the center , and the front is just dry storage , and I added a door in the front so it is accessible from either end.


It's all aluminum and so maintenance free basically , I don't think you could build a 45' x 8' building nowadays for $2500 , and I've since found cheaper ones.
There are smaller ones too , 18 footers and up.
They can be a little ugly on their own , I put some old fencing I scrounged around it and built a deck over it , planted some fruit trees up against it , it's hard to tell it is an old highway van now , kind of blends into the yard.






Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: Tiarella on January 25, 2014, 05:40:33 PM
I like how you build things.   ^-^
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: jwalker on January 25, 2014, 06:05:50 PM
I like how you build things.   ^-^

Thank you , the secret is , never have a plan , just grab some materials and start ,  be the wood. ;D

Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: John@PC on January 26, 2014, 12:02:29 AM
They can be a little ugly on their own , I put some old fencing I scrounged around it and built a deck over it , planted some fruit trees up against it , it's hard to tell it is an old highway van now , kind of blends into the yard.
You are, my friend, an artist (or artist / architect).   Saying you "scrounged around" doesn't do it justice!  And I have to thank you for showing me what to do with all those old Honeywell analog controller cabinets laying around (center right in 1st pic; believe it or not, my father-in-law did what you did and made a curio cabinet out of one). I've got a feeling that even though you get a lot of cu. ft. for the price of these things most home cheesemakers either don't need something that large or their neighbors will cry foul (that is, unless it's anywhere near as good looking as yours  8)).  Then again maybe cheese caves are like closets: no matter how big you make them they get filled up.  :P  After all, we can dream, can't we:
Title: Re: WTB - Used 7ish gallon s/s milk can/tote
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 26, 2014, 05:07:58 PM
I'd have to agree with John, Jwalker.  Your imagination is wonderful to behold, and your fine construction is just awesome.  Thanks for sharing pics of your beautiful place. 

Tiarella, not sure it grows well where you are, but we've a friend who started off years ago simply making pestos off his basil.  The business exploded, and we're talking 20 years or so, I think. 

The cargo container is a good idea, guys, but way past my pay grade.  I'm searching for an underground basement, ideally, or a backyard shed as suggested by you, Tiarella...much more doable.  Thanks, all!

Paul