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Title: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 02, 2012, 07:23:43 PM
Made the Stilton Approximation recipe, so far so good!  4 days in the mould and then unmoulded at room temp for 5 days.  Into the cave at 55 degrees and 90-92% humidity inside a plastic container with the lid adjusted to maintain the humidity level.

Here is just after moving into the cave on 4/25 and progress as of 5/1.

Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Tomer1 on May 02, 2012, 09:06:22 PM
The tower of blue!
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Cheese Head on May 02, 2012, 10:20:40 PM
Looks good, next time if wanted you could smooth the surfaces to seal the cheese before later piercing like they do in the Stilton videos (http://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,1046.0.html).
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 03, 2012, 11:31:37 AM
That's actually as good as I could get it.  The sides smoothed decent but the ends were pretty dry and crumbly.  Hot & wet knife would dislodge chunks if I tried to work it.  The sides are pretty good though.    :)
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: george on May 03, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
Isn't it just so cool when you go to look at them and suddenly they've got all that pretty blue all over them, and you just say "WOW!  I did it right!  It's so PURTY!"   :)
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Boofer on May 03, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
That's the height I wanted for my Fourme d'Ambert. Looks good so far.

Feels like you need a cheese for encouragement.  ;)

-Boofer-
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: SarahV63 on May 03, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
Isn't it just so cool when you go to look at them and suddenly they've got all that pretty blue all over them, and you just say "WOW!  I did it right!  It's so PURTY!"   :)

You are SOOO rite! I made my first using Fankhauser's simple blue cheese recipe with store bought as the inoculum. I don't have anything but my regular refrigerator either YET, so its been longer than ten days. Anyhow, yesterday it was just white. I just looked cuz I smelled something new and it has Blue growing all over it!!! I'm jumped up and down and dragged my neighbor over here... she already knows I'm nuts. What a sense of satisfaction cheese making gives you. (=
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: SarahV63 on May 03, 2012, 04:28:09 PM
Made the Stilton Approximation recipe, so far so good!  4 days in the mould and then unmoulded at room temp for 5 days.  Into the cave at 55 degrees and 90-92% humidity inside a plastic container with the lid adjusted to maintain the humidity level.

Here is just after moving into the cave on 4/25 and progress as of 5/1.

Its very beautiful. Congratulations!
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 07, 2012, 04:45:28 PM
Thanks everyone!

The cheese is covered in a nice even layer of blue.  Now I see there is a white fuzz mold covering it.  I think my RH has been too high.  If I lower the RH will the white fuzz go away on its own?  Or do I need to wipe/scrape??  I don't want it to turn into mushy cheese!
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 09, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
Actually I think the white fuzz is okay, its not as bad as I thought upon closer inspection.

I do have another worry though!!  The cheese is starting to slump to one side.  I peirced a couple days ago and the bottom holes are filled with white cheese ooze.  I really dont want this to turn into a gooey cheese!!

Should I reduce humidity for a few days?  Lower temp??  Im at 54F and between 89 and 95% RH depending on how I have the container lid propped open.
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 09, 2012, 12:05:17 PM
Just to clarify - the piercing holes that were facing down are filled with white creamy paste, but not dripping out. 
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Boofer on May 09, 2012, 09:44:59 PM
Do you flip?

-Boofer-
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Tomer1 on May 09, 2012, 10:47:15 PM
Cant the white mold ammoniate the cheese?
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Caseus on May 10, 2012, 01:32:29 AM
It's true confession time.  While I love to eat blue cheeses, I'm used to the way they look when packaged for retail sale.  The veins of blue mold inside the cheeses look very appealing to me, but the furry blue coat on the outside of most of the blue cheeses I see on this forum just looks downright scary to me.  The commercially packaged blue cheeses that I buy generally look pretty clean on the outside edges.  They may have visible lines of blue mold in cracks and crevices, but they aren't furry looking.   Are you supposed to just cut off the outer rind on these kinds of cheeses?
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: H-K-J on May 10, 2012, 02:33:26 AM
welcome to blue veined cheese :o very scary when you make them at home (http://cocker-spanial-hair-in-my-food.blogspot.com/2012/03/stilton-style-blue-cheese-just-another.html) for the first time, but MMMMmmmMMMMmmmmMMM  ;D
cut off the rind if it's scary or as Sailor say;s
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A moldy Stilton is a thing of beauty. Yes, you eat the rind
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Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Tomer1 on May 10, 2012, 10:35:10 AM
They do clean the rind before wrapping in foil.
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on May 10, 2012, 03:09:03 PM
@Boofer - yes I flip daily. 

I left it in the cave yesterday with the container lid off and it seems to have helped.  The downward facing holes had no ooze.  The rind has a nice sealed feel to it and overall has a firm feel to it.  One softer spot where it slumped a little but it might have been a pocket or something because the slump hasn't got any worse.

Some progress pics for everyone! 
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on June 14, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
Still looking good!  Tomorrow is day-60.  Gonna try for 90 days.  Everything seems good except the ends where it sits have started to get some shiny pink on them.  I dabbed it off with a paper towel soaked in white vinegar and then sprinkled a little salt on those spots.  Is that the proper fix?  Going to keep the humidity a touch less too.
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: H-K-J on June 14, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
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I dabbed it off with a paper towel soaked in white vinegar and then sprinkled a little salt on those spots.  Is that the proper fix?  Going to keep the humidity a touch less too.

I had some scary white stuff on my last Stilton (http://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,9282.msg71400.html#msg71400) and used the same cure (less the salt) helped immensely  ^-^
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on August 08, 2012, 06:52:11 PM
Well after 105 days I cut into it!  The pink stuff in the piercing hols scares me a little, but the cheese has a great flavor and firm but creamy texture.  The moldy cavities inside the cheese have a slight bit of crunch to them, sort of like tiny bits of rind.  Good stuff though!
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Turgid on August 27, 2012, 06:21:30 PM
Anyone have any insight into the texture of the blue in this cheese?  The cavities have an almost crispiness in them, like rind.  And if you zoom in you can see the adjacent cheese looks dry.  Did I age too long?  I thought I had good humidity, any more and pink or white would bloom like crazy.  It's okay but I kind of don't like that harder texture mixed in.
Title: Re: First Blue
Post by: Boofer on August 28, 2012, 01:12:49 PM
How is the taste/flavor? Does it have a bite to it?

Do you smell ammonia?

105 days seems like a pretty long time (even longer than Sailor suggests: 90 days).

-Boofer-