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CHEESE TYPE BOARDS (for Cheese Lovers and Cheese Makers) => RENNET COAGULATED - Hard Other => Topic started by: saycheese on January 12, 2009, 12:09:49 AM
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My husband didn't care too much for the Manchego with lipase in it. He said it was too sour. To me it just tasted more like feta. So, today I just finished making a manchego without lipase. If it is still too sour for Michael's taste, then I will need to look at my thermometer that I am using to make sure it is registering accurately as well as revisiting sanitation procedures. We'll know in about 5 days after the Manchego ages a bit.
Had a minor problem with trying to make whey ricotta after this recipe was made. I had put in some heavy whipping cream hoping to increase yield, I got absolutely nothing, so I put the pot back on the stove and brought it to about 180F still nothing, but after I let it sit for awhile it looks like there may be some activity there. We'll see.
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Please let us know about the Lipase.
Just for your information, although you probably already know, Lipase should be stored in the freezer and you need to rehydate it 30 mintues before pitching at room temp.
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Say Cheese you know that you are to add a little vinegar to get the cheese to curdle?
Just wondering as you didn't mention it.
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I don't add vinegar to my machego it just uses half thermophilic and half mesophilic.
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Interesting, the recipe didn't call for that, it was more like what Cartierusm said - 1/4 tsp. mesophilic and 1/4 tsp. thermophilic starters. Just took the cheese out of its brine bath this morning and dried it off good. Then, into the cheese cave it goes.
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Say Cheese I'm sorry I wasn't clear in that post at all. I was refering to the ricotta, not the manchego.
The ricotta needs vinegar to turn.
My apologies.
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Yes, I tried the vinegar and also some fresh lemon juice, but nothing seemed to work. I think the fact that the whipping cream was ultra pasteurized messed the whole thing up. Not going to do that again!
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mmm maybe it was the cream. I have found the UHT products to be difficult at the best of times.
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The manchego without lipase is aging nicely, no mold, no strong smells, staying dry in its tupperware container in the cheese cave. I've been toying with the idea of coating it with oil and a laot of chopped dried rosemary, but maybe I'll save that for the next one.
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I would until you find if the problem is your cheese or your husband's palate.
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Well, we tried a small slice ofthe Manchego without lipase and it got the thumbs up from Michael regarding flavor. It is mild, no bitterness at all. We rubbed olive oil over its surface and put it back in its tupperware container to age in the cheese cave for another month. I'll turn it over every week (or probably more often because I love looking at them) until then.
Looks like the sanitation problem has been solved. I am going to get some StarSan at the brew store in Concord because we are bottling the Chocolate Stout this weekend, and it can do double duty for cheese making sanitation.
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More Beer? That place has everything.
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Yup, More Beer! They DO have everything. I always have to get what I came for and get out quickly before something else grabs me and says take me home.
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The manchego has developed some slight mold on top and bottom after coating with olive oil. I removed the mold today with a cloth soaked in brine. Also recoated it with olive oil, changed its tupperware home and cheese mat to fresh clean ones in hopes of avoiding further mold growth. We'll see how it goes -- the goal is to let this age for a few months and see what flavor develops (hopefully not mold!).
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Damn mould, it can be the bane of our existance at times. >:(
I found that the oil treatment was great in helping keep surface mould at bay. It does, for some reason, give a harder rind, but that is OK. If the mould is just surface and persistant, just thinly slice it off, rub salt into the area, then oil it again.
Hope it continues to age well for you.
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Well, we tossed the manchego today. Even after cutting off the rind, the musky smell had made its way into the cheese, so into the compost pile it went :( I looked in the cheese cave and found a little drain/drip pan/drawer under the small freezer that had MOLD on it :'(. OK, that's it, the pan is now no longer in the cheese cave-- also took the door of the small inside freezer off so it is more open to air. Washed everything down with hot soapy water. Next is a treatment with StarSan. I'm going to get that cheese cave clean.
Also we are changing our cheese mats from the bamboo sushi rolling mats to plastic mats that can be sanitized in the dish washer, bought a sink mat for $5 that I can cut to fit in the tupperware containers. I can't seem to get the bamboo mats clean even after boiling them for 20 minutes.
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Please let us know about the Lipase.
Just for your information, although you probably already know, Lipase should be stored in the freezer and you need to rehydate it 30 mintues before pitching at room temp.
ACK! IT DOES??? Oh you're right, I just checked my little bottle. It's not been opened, I just popped it in the freezer, we've had it about a week and it came from Ricki Carroll. Is it still good?
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Welcome, yeah I think it'll be all right or else they probably would have shipped it with an ice pack. You're probably good to go.
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LadyLiberty, as with my other cultures, I keep my Lipase (http://cheeseforum.org/Making/Lipase.htm) in the freezer to maximize its life, but mine is a freeze-dried powder.
If your Lipase is in a bottle, it sounds like a liquid in which case as probably water based it would freeze which I think may not be that good for it and water based liquids expand when frozen and could crack the bottle if not strong or glass, like when I forget to take our beer or wine out of quick chill mode in the freezer >:(.
Just a little worried for your Lipase.
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True I didn't pick up on that, sorry if I mislead you, I don't know the answer either. Call the manfu. tomorrow.
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LadyLiberty, as with my other cultures, I keep my Lipase ([url]http://cheeseforum.org/Making/Lipase.htm[/url]) in the freezer to maximize its life, but mine is a freeze-dried powder.
If your Lipase is in a bottle, it sounds like a liquid in which case as probably water based it would freeze which I think may not be that good for it and water based liquids expand when frozen and could crack the bottle if not strong or glass, like when I forget to take our beer or wine out of quick chill mode in the freezer >:(.
Just a little worried for your Lipase.
I haven't looked at it since last night, I'll check it, it does say it needs to be kept in the freezer though, so I'm betting it's the powder.
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My lipase is in powder form and it is kept in the freezer.
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My lipase is in powder form and it is kept in the freezer.
Whew... so is mine. Cheesehead got me panicked there for a second. I looked though and it's still in tact!