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Title: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 03, 2016, 01:45:13 PM

I has been a while since I made cream cheese (well actually 3 liters of whole milk 3,5% and 1 liter of cream 38%). I found a place in France that sells a great mix of herbs and garlic.

I'm excited how it will turn out...

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Al Lewis on December 03, 2016, 02:52:28 PM

I found that if you place 1/4 tspn of Flora Danica into a half gallon container of heavy whipping cream, shake it up a bit, and let it sit on the countertop over night it makes great cream cheese.  Never made this type.  I'm interested to see how it turns out.

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 03, 2016, 03:45:43 PM

I used 0,2 grams of Flora Danica and 6 drops of rennet for 3 liters of 3.5% milk and 1 liter of 38% whipping cream. Organic and not homogenized. Based on a Caldwell recipe...

- Starttemp.: 30 C
- Flora Danica springled over milk
- Wait 2 minutes
- Rennet stirred in
- Left to ripen for 12-24 hours (until curd PH is 4.6-4.7) while maintaining 20 C
- Cut curd vertically 1/2"
- Draining in cheesecloth for around 4-6 hours at 22 C
- Blend with herbs

:) Danbo

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Al Lewis on December 03, 2016, 04:57:22 PM

Cool!  Whipping cream for cheese is getting very hard to find around here.  My "Everyday Essentials" brand from Albertsons has been replaced with some ultra-pasteurized stuff.   :(

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: awakephd on December 03, 2016, 06:24:45 PM

Quote from: Al Lewis on December 03, 2016, 02:52:28 PM

I found that if you place 1/4 tspn of Flora Danica into a half gallon container of heavy whipping cream, shake it up a bit, and let it sit on the countertop over night it makes great cream cheese.  Never made this type.  I'm interested to see how it turns out.

Now that is a very temptingly easy recipe! One question - the only cream I can get my hands on is ultra-pasteurized. It sounds like, from your last post, that that won't work ... have you tried this recipe with UP cream, by any chance?

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 03, 2016, 07:35:27 PM

Thanks for commenting... :-)

I think that it is OK that the cream is ultra pasteurized as long as the milk is not... It is actually mentioned in this cream cheese recipe: https://www.cheesemaking.com/learn/cheese-making-recipes/cream-cheese.html. (https://www.cheesemaking.com/learn/cheese-making-recipes/cream-cheese.html.)

Tomorrow I'll let you know how the cream cheese turns out...

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Al Lewis on December 03, 2016, 08:21:43 PM

Quote from: awakephd on December 03, 2016, 06:24:45 PM

Now that is a very temptingly easy recipe! One question - the only cream I can get my hands on is ultra-pasteurized. It sounds like, from your last post, that that won't work ... have you tried this recipe with UP cream, by any chance?

Great news! Went to Albertsons today to get some milk and found this.  The red label is Ultra Pasteurized but the yellow label is not.

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 04, 2016, 10:59:05 AM

Draining after 17 hours...

PH was a bit low at 4.57.

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 04, 2016, 02:08:20 PM

Draining took 7 hours. The end PH was close to 4.4 - in the lower end for cream cheese but still OK (my ripening temperature was a bit over 20 C).

The cheese was mixed with the dried herbs (garlic, parsley, onion, salt and pepper and put in small jars.

The taste is great (also before adding the herbs). It's a bit airy a bit like whipped cream which is nice.

:-) Danbo

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: nccheesemike on December 04, 2016, 03:38:27 PM

Wow! The cream cheese looks great! Love the jar idea too. Well done Danbo!  :)

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: reg on December 04, 2016, 03:58:38 PM

Beautiful Danbo ! Great job. I may give that go, I have never made a fresh cheese of any sort

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: awakephd on December 04, 2016, 04:20:11 PM

Great idea on the jars - is that to give as gifts, or just to make it convenient for storage? In either case, AC4U!

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 04, 2016, 04:55:47 PM

Thanks! :)

The jars are ment used small gifts... Most of the cheese I make are given away. I love to share my creations... IKEA has some very nice quality glass jars.

After cooling the cream cheese it has unfortunately become  grainy. It's still OK but not as smooth and delicious as I would have hoped... What a shame...

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Al Lewis on December 04, 2016, 05:12:06 PM

That may go away with time as the herbs rehydrate.  Awesome idea!!  AC4U!

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 04, 2016, 05:17:24 PM

Al, I hope so... :-)

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Al Lewis on December 04, 2016, 05:38:31 PM

Guess I'm off to IKEA.  Wife loves the place, me, not so much.  Too much walking.  I can stock up on Kalles though!!! ;D

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20227984/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20227984/)

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 04, 2016, 06:24:54 PM

Better go with her unless you are a millionare...

The one you linked to I use for Feta. These I use for cream cheese: http://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/40323654/ (http://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/40323654/)

:-) Danbo

Ps.: I live about 5 km from Sweden. There you can have so many variations of Kalles Caviar... ;-) It's a bit too salty for me though...

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Gregore on December 05, 2016, 05:16:35 AM

Great idea and so little labor to make and such a great gift  for  the season that in is fast approaching

Title: Re: Making some soft cream cheese
Post by: Danbo on December 05, 2016, 06:31:13 AM

:)

Anyone got ideas why the cheese became sort of lumpy? It isn't as smooth ad I hoped for... trying to smooth it by whipping it like whipped cream didn't help.

It's edible but not great. It looks good and tastes fine though.