I decided to try Parmesan today. I figured I better get one in and aging. After reading recipes, some articles on the forums, and watching Gavin's video, I decided on Jim's recipe on NEC. I used 3 gal of 2% p/h milk. I used the DS -C201 culture blend. I added lipase. I will post my recipe and make notes later.
Jims recipe only presses for 4 hours then leaves the wheel unwrapped but in the mold overnight then in a box for a couple days before brining. Most the other recipes I saw say to press for about 12 hours then brine. Any suggestions here? I am leaning towards following Jims lead. It has been in the press for about 4 hours now and has knitted well. I will put it in the mold, unwrapped and leave overnight.
One problem I had is size. I only have a 7" tomme mold or a 5" cylinder mold. I used the tomme mold and only got about a 1.5" high wheel out of it. Will this effect anything with the development of the cheese? I was worried my follower didn't go down the tapered edges low enough to press well enough but I came up with a 7" follower and fixed that problem. I will follow up later. I will be watching the PH and not brining until 5.3 or 5.4.
I used my tomme mould for 4.5 gallons of milk, it fits nicely. I don't think you need to press it with much weight. I used Caldwell's pressing guidance, 6-12 hours with heaviest weight used for the batch.
After sitting in the form overnight, PH is 5.4.
Jim"s recipe now calls for it to sit in a box for 2 days before brining to let the cultures do their thing. I am worried about this for a couple of reasons. Let me know your thoughts ...
I am worried the rind may close up too much and not let the brine do its job.
I am worried, because of its size, it may dry out too much even though I can get the RH up in the 90s in my box. The thin size has me questioning.
Also worried about the PH dropping. It is now at 5.4. Will it continue to drop over the next couple days if I don't get it into a 55f brine soon?
The wheel already has this powdery surface to it even though it is still pliable.
Also wondering about brine times and how I may need to alter it due to its size. It weighs in at 2lbs 7oz and is 1.5" x 7".
At 4 hrs a lb, that's about 10 hours. There seems to be conflicting info out there when it comes to brining times.
I followed Gianaclis Caldwell recipe to make my parms, mainly because I found it to be simpler than the other's. On her recipe, the cheese went into brine right after pressing, after it reach desired PH, 4 hours/lbs or 12 hours/kg. I think if the PH is right, you should brine it.
Regarding brining time correlation with dimention: Check out this link here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,12904.msg100199.html#msg100199).
Thanks Ann! I went ahead and put it in the brine. Thanks for that link to the brining adjustments. I will go with 3.5 hrs per my 2.48 lbs ... Round it up to 9 hrs flipping once and see how she turns out.
In my Caldwell book, she recommends 12 hrs per pound for her 4gal make. That is quite a difference. Is that a type-o? Did you follow her brining times and if so, how did it turn out?
Actually, I think there is a slight error/typo on that part in her book. She mention: 12 hours/pounds or 6 hours per kilo. That can't be right because in 1 kg there are 2.2 lbs. So I assume she meant 6 hours per pound or 12 hours per kg.
That said, I read about what Peter Dickson said regarding the preference of brining time, apparently European prefers saltier cheese than American. So I brine my long aging cheese 12 hours per kg and shorter aging ones 4 hours/lbs. Diplomatic choice, right?
Out of the brine, dried and ready to air dry a little more before I seal it up ...
I hope this one turns out. I will definitely increase the size of the make next time. What I really liked about this make is it was relatively quick getting the curds to the press. It seemed a lot faster than most other makes. I started at 2pm and had curds in the press at 5pm. Technically this means that I could probably get two makes in on a weekend. That would be a first for me. I could get a make done on Saturday and in the press overnight and get a Parm in on Sunday. I am sure there are other types that will allow me to do this also (other than fresh cheeses and Mozz) but I haven't attempted getting two makes in on a weekend yet. I think I am going to make a new Parm every few months to keep them aging out.
Quote from: ksk2175 on April 11, 2016, 04:35:24 AM
Out of the brine, dried and ready to air dry a little more before I seal it up ...
I'd get it in the cave (55F, 85RH) as soon as it is dry to the touch and keep it there for a week or two before sealing it up. It will evaporate a fair amount of moisture during this time as the salt permeates the cheese and things come to equilibrium. You can wipe the rind with salt/vinegar wash if mold starts to develop. Vacuum bag it if you can so that you can see any problems if they develop. AC4U. :D
Thanks for the advice Kern and the cheese. After the brine, I pat it dry and put it in a ripening box, then into my 55f cave right away. Lid propped ... trying to get the 85% RH is a bit of trial and error. Closed I can get that box to 95% but down to 85% may take the right amount of "propping" of that lid. Ive read about people using a humidity sink such as a salt slurry at the bottom of the box. Havent played with that yet. I will vac seal it when I think it is dry enough and keep an eye on it.
Saturated potassium chloride supports 85% RH, sodium chloride 75%. There was some information on this here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,15088.15.html) (about halfway down and on the next page).
Where would one obtain potassium chloride? Isn't that a health supplement or are there other uses for it?
e-bay
E-bay - roger that.
2lb $15 ;)
I've been having a lot of fun playing with the salt slurry technique. Best advice I can give is to make sure there is a good amount of undissolved salt : you don't need all that much depth of free water. My slurry covers the bottom of my mini cave to a depth of about 1/4 inch.
Amazon lists potassium chloride but the product is not pure according to the reviews. I don't know about the quality of the e-Bay product. I got mine from Bulkfoods, (http://www.bulkfoods.com/nutritional/4306-potassium-chloride.html)a company I buy lots of dried fruits and nuts from. Their KCl is food grade pure and costs about $2.50 per pound in 5-pound bags.
Wow, pretty cool. I had salt around so tried that first. I put just enough water in the bottom of my box to cover it about 1/4" or less then added a lot enough salt so that it wouldn't all dissolve. I did this last night then shut the lid tight. I went to work today and when I got home I checked it. It's pegged at 80% RH and 55f. Not bad at all.
A saturated common salt solution (NaCl, sodium chloride) should line out pretty much at 75% RH within a temperature range of 45-90F. that you had 80% means one of several things:
Your gauge was off.
Your solution was not saturated with NaCl
The NaCl was not pure enough
The air and salt solution were not at equilibrium as there was not enough air circulation.
If it holds steady at 80%RH over several days and salt is lying on the bottom of the solution then I'd expect that the humidity gauge was incorrect. Incidentally, saturated salt solutions are used to calibrate humidity gauges so I suspect that your gauge is reading high.
Quote from: Kern on April 13, 2016, 02:30:36 AM
A saturated common salt solution (NaCl, sodium chloride) should line out pretty much at 75% RH within a temperature range of 45-90F. that you had 80% means one of several things:
Your gauge was off.
Your solution was not saturated with NaCl
The NaCl was not pure enough
The air and salt solution were not at equilibrium as there was not enough air circulation.
If it holds steady at 80%RH over several days and salt is lying on the bottom of the solution then I'd expect that the humidity gauge was incorrect. Incidentally, saturated salt solutions are used to calibrate humidity gauges so I suspect that your gauge is reading high.
Well it held at around 80-81 on the meter but I noticed when I removed the cheese there was no visible salt in the liquid at the bottom so had too much water or not enough NaCl... Or like you said my hygrometer could be off ... It is a $20 cheapie. I bagged it yesterday as it was pretty dry and getting a shadow of blue showing up here and there. I wiped it down, dried it, then bagged it. Now it sits.
2 months in and I'm getting some swelling and larger white patches ... Concerns with this thin wheel?
The swelling concerns me. Is there any P. Shermanii in the culture mix? If so, that could account for the swelling, though if you've kept it at cave temps, there shouldn't be much. If not ... I'd worry about late blowing. I've never had it happen, so I don't really know the timeline or ways to diagnose, but hopefully some others can chip in.
The description on the culture doesnt say it contains any of the P.Shermanii .... lactose, streptococcus thermophilus, lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. Lactis, lactobacillus helveticus, sucrose
Its been 55f and vac sealed since day 1. Hopefully the vac seal will keep it from splitting or it may explode .... lol
Decided to cut this one open .... ugh! >:(
Gonna try this one again.... into the trash bin it goes....
How did it smell? That looks like what I would think would be some sort of blowing (presumably late blowing), but I just don't have enough experience - actually, don't have any experience** - with blowing, so I'm guessing based on the fact that it doesn't look like the "normal" gas bubbles from PS or even from one of the aroma blends.
**Knock on wood ... hopefully I haven't just jinxed myself!