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Colostrum and milk and cheese question

Started by scasnerkay, January 08, 2016, 11:11:18 PM

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scasnerkay

The farm where I volunteer including milking, has had just one cow in milk. The second cow in her first freshening, delivered a still born (girl - extra sadness) calf this morning. Her udder is so swollen and bursting with milk. My question is about when the milk becomes usable for making cheese. I think I have read that the colostrum does not work. So when does the milk become usable? Her first milking this morning was 30#, which was dumped on the compost heap because of dirty collection with all the kicking. But she should settle into pattern soon.
Susan

lovinglife

I'm not sure with cows but with goats I usually wait 2 weeks and give it a taste, if it is a little bitter still wait a little longer but so far at the 2 week mark it is totally drinkable.  You can try in a few days, just taste it, you will know if there is still colostrum present.

scasnerkay

I did a bit more reading, and found that the pH of colostrum/first milk is lower than normal milk. So I brought some home, and measured it at 6.45 (after double checking calibration). Certainly such a low pH would affect the cheesemaking. So aside from taste, I think getting a measurement should be interesting.
In the meantime, the reading also made it sound like colostrum should be good for humans too - in fact one dairy was selling fresh raw colostrum for big bucks. So I did drink a glass and enjoyed it! Also made ice cream from the bright yellow cream. I did not notice any bitterness...
Susan

Mermaid

With our cows we wait about 8-10 milkings before keeping it for cheesemaking.

scasnerkay

I am tying to make a fresh cheese (like chevre) with milk that is from 3 days after delivery - 4th milking. and it is not setting up normally. I may give it another 12 to 24 hours and then try to scoop it. I also am trying to make kefir with it, and it seems to not be thickening normally.
Is that 8-10 milkings with no calves nursing on the cows?
Do you check starting pH of the milk?
Susan

CdnMorganGal

Personally, I don't like the taste of the milk for the first 10 days or so after birthing. Luckily my worker's family likes it.

Mermaid

Milkings referring to twice a day (6 am, 6 pm) milking, after weaning calf after one day. I use the milk from these days to bottle feed.
So that would be 4-5 days

scasnerkay

Mermaid - interesting! I have been testing the pH of the milk, as well as assessing it visually and by taste. We have been doing 2 x day milkings, and today at 11 days after birth, the pH is up to 6.55. When I first tested a few days ago it was 6.4. The low pH would have a big impact on the make I think. Today the milk looks almost "normal" in terms of color and cream and it tastes normal. So I am making mozzarella where I need a low pH anyway. Normal flocculation time for me is about 12 mins. Same rennet amount today and I got flocculation in 4 mins.
Susan