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Started by Choubix, September 02, 2017, 11:56:01 AM

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Choubix

Hi,

I tried my hand at making Mozz again.
my ph is now stuck at 6 since yesterday...

Either my "El cheapo" digital ph reader is gone or there is a problem somewhere else...
I used a meso culture starter and kept the temp at 32c until ph dropped by 0.2 then I used lipase and rennet.
cut the curds, healed, drained etc...

I really don't know what else I could do apart form waiting...
I noticed my whey doesnt make any ricotta when reheated with an acid also.

Any idea?

Thank you!


awakephd

Choubix, it definitely seems like something odd is going on if you can't get ricotta out of the whey. I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions to offer, but will be interested to see what other seasoned cheesemakers have to say ...
-- Andy

Gregore

Do you have calibration fluid?   Test meter

Assuming that you do not , try it in vinager , ph should be between 2 and 3 , not really calibrating but it will let you know if the ph meter is in the ball park or even working .

If it is off you will need to buy at least the 7.01 solution , if it is way off get cleaner too or contact lens cleaner for proteins.  As it is possible that the contact is plugged up with milk proteins

Choubix

Hi Gregore, thank you for your message.

I actually thought my ph meter was not working g properly and dipped it into white (synthetic) vinegar yesterday.
it read 3.3 (which je though was a bit high).

I suppose I should save up for a better reader (spear type) as these China made ones dont seem too good... :(

FooKayaks2

Hi Choubix,

When you calibrate your pH meter you will need to do at let a 2 point calibration.

7 buffer will adjust the zero point, the second buffer adjusts the slope of the pH curve. You need to do at least a 2 point calibration to have an accurate pH measurement. I would get a 4 buffer.

You need to clean your pH meter after each cheese making session and calibrate at the start of each new cheese making session.

Mathew

Choubix

At each session?
I was thinking the meter once calibrated was good to go for a while  :-[

I guess I am way off mark then...

Hmm. Not sure what I will so with the curd that is still sitting in the counter top.

Thanks!

awakephd

Calibrating each session is the best way ... but I confess that I do not do that. I calibrate on a strict scientific schedule known as "every so often." :) Generally I find that the meter (I use an Extech) has drifted a little but not too much.
-- Andy

Choubix

I just ordered a Spear type ph meter (aspera) at a good price.
Hopefully it works with liquids too and not just curds.

Let's see if both ph readers agree when I use them next time!

Rain Frances

Hi Choubix!
I hope your new meter works out! I have a "pocket" PH meter that came calibrated and I guess I was lucky that it actually was. I had success with my first Mozzarella a few weeks back but it took 22 hours to hit the right PH.

Btw, I'm no expert, but I read that you can't use whey from any milk other than raw if you want to make a nice ricotta. Not sure if that's a fact or not, maybe it's the milk?

Rain

Gregore

You can use whey from any milk to make ricotta , but some cheese styles will leave very little curd left in the milk.

Good meters will hold calibrating longer than cheap ones in general ,  my Hanna can be off .02 after a month or so .....hardly worth worring about , my last meter would clog as I used it during the make a start to give wildly inaccurate readings .

If cost is a concern you can buy little sealed  foil packets of calibration fluid on line , cut the top corner off  , pour a little in a bottle cap or some other small container ( this fluid can not be put back into packet ) so the smaller  the container the better . This will be good for the whole make session.   Fold top over  on foil pack and seal with clip , I stored mine in fridge  back when I used them.

Ph cleaner is also important ..... not sure if it comes in foil packets or not.

Choubix

I ordered an apera ph60S off ebay.

I hope it reaches me fast enough that u can stop buying milk to feed the birds with curds ;)

Ph is now 5.7 after something like 3 days...


Gregore

Not possible for the ph to be at 5.7 after 3 days . Certainly something wrong with that meter .

Did you get ph calibration solutions also?

even the best meters can be off when they first arrive as you never know how long they sat on the shelf .

If it arrives with crystals on the probe then soak in 4 solution for 15 to 20 Minutes .