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Started by Baby Chee, October 20, 2009, 04:06:45 PM

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Baby Chee

Y'know, I just got an e-mail from Ulmers about the cost of the 10" x 11" ss mold. 

$75

And with shipping it comes close to $100.  Then I realized something very important: why can't I buy a cheap aluminum stock pot and just drill holes in it?

Anyone have any advice for me?  I would assume a metal stock pot can take 300+ lbs. pressure.

linuxboy

Aluminum is no good, the lactic acid will eat away at it. You want 304 stainless steel or better.

Baby Chee

Good to know.  I see extremely cheap SS stock pots on Amazon. 

The problem is that they are 11" diameter.  If I could find a cheap 10" diameter stock pot I would be happy.

hplace

I purchased two cheap stainless steel stockpots from Amazon (4 gallon and 5 gallon) and both were cracked when they arrived. I had to send them back. The sides are so thin that any little dent causes a crack.

Baby Chee

I could just go to a store and get a mold-stock pot for half that price.  Just gotta drill holes and file off shavings.

Has anyone tried this?

DeejayDebi

That mould from Ulmers is pretty heavy don't drop it on your toe.

wharris

I have that same mould from Ullmers.  It is sturdy and will not crack.

I would argue that SS, thick SS is the way to go.


or thick, sturdy HDPE plastic.

DeejayDebi

I don't think a pot would last very long before splitting.

linuxboy

Plus, the time drilling all those holes. Is it worth the effort? Not trying to discourage you, but you can get good HDPE molds for not very much. Like a traditional tomme mold with follower is around $15-$20. You can also get microperf molds, but they are a bit more expensive.

DeejayDebi

#9
the 8 inch x 6 inch tomme mold I bought last week was only $29 That would be a good mold for just about anything.

Baby Chee

Quote from: linuxboy on October 20, 2009, 04:09:32 PM
Aluminum is no good, the lactic acid will eat away at it. You want 304 stainless steel or better.
I was thinking on this today and then researched it on the net.

While lactic acid does destroy aluminum, I saw only one real negative from someone doing the curd work in the pots.  I think that for mold work it might not be too bad.  Using one 6 times a year, 6 days a year, might not be enough to rot the aluminum far.  I could be wrong though.

DeejayDebi

I have read it also leaches into the cheese. I think Linixboy posted something on this at one time. Do you brew in aluminum?

Baby Chee

No, but I wouldn't do the curd work in the aluminum.  But where the cheese is pressed, the aluminum isn't likely to swim up stream.

hplace

A welding engineer explained to me that aluminum is so highly reactive that it immediately bonds with elements in the atmosphere to produce a non-reactive coating on the surface. The only time a reaction would occur is when this non-reactive coating was removed (scraped or scratched for example). So if you are stirring an aluminum pot with a stainless steel ladle and scraped the side, you would remove that protective coating and aluminum could disolve into the cheese milk until the scratch re-bonds.

Michelle

QuoteWhile lactic acid does destroy aluminum, I saw only one real negative from someone doing the curd work in the pots.  I think that for mold work it might not be too bad.

Perhaps the reason that there were no negative posts around using aluminium for a cheese mold (hoop) is that no one ever uses aluminium in the first place?! 

I really wouldn't use it for a hoop.  You don't want to spend all you time making curd, only to have it taint in the press...