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Cheese Make Room - Temperature

Started by steffb503, June 01, 2011, 10:10:58 AM

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steffb503

How hot is too hot?
My brand new cheese room seems to be getting a bit too hot. Like 90 inside yesterday and it's not even summer yet. I am certain that if I were to run my vat for a fresh cheese it will be too hot to drain it in there.
How about air drying hard cheese?
Can I air dry in the fridge?
We are working on air conditioning but for now , any thoughts?

Sailor Con Queso

IMHO that's way too hot. Either air dry in your cave, or cool things down. Higher temperatures create an environment that is conducive to spoilage and/or contamination.

Tomer1

Cheese fridge is fine ,it will likly take a few extra hours\days (depending on size and type of cheese) extra to get to the draining level you want.

ArnaudForestier

Quote from: Tomer1 on June 01, 2011, 08:25:55 PM
Cheese fridge is fine ,it will likly take a few extra hours\days (depending on size and type of cheese) extra to get to the draining level you want.

Do you mean, in a regular cheese cave, at say, 88-94%RH?  I've got an issue with drying cheeses, now - no more means to do a separate 55-60F/70% RH, at least not very easily.  So I had thought to try and find the driest part of my existing caves, but even there, we're likely talking 85% or better.
- Paul

Sailor Con Queso

Unless your room is hitting 90F like Steff, just dry at room temp (and the associated lower RH) for a couple of days, then move to your cave.

ArnaudForestier

Thanks, Sailor.  As it turns out, I'm able to get my room to 68F and about 65%RH, so hope that will do.  I do want to get a small wine cooler, make it just a dedicated "drying room" since it wouldn't need much capacity, turns cheeses in 24-48 hours or so.

That said - in a commercial operation such as yours, perhaps - how do places deal with a single, dedicated drying room, when doing very different cheeses (I'm making a run of tomme de grise, for instance, and don't want mucor anywhere around my other cheeses).  Isn't there an issue of cross-contamination, or is it too early for there to be any appreciable growth (would think there's always potential for "appreciable growth.").
- Paul

Sailor Con Queso

I do tons of blues in the same room temperature drying area where I do all my other cheeses. I do not have a dedicated drying room, so everything is in the same room as my make pot, presses, and draining area. I don't find it to be a problem at all. You just have to take the time to manage the rinds properly. Wipe with a vinegar brine before things get out of control. If you let things go for a week and molds get a foothold, you're screwed. I dry at room temp for 2 or 3 days then go natural rind for 3-4 weeks in my drying cave and then vac bag. The blues actually force me to do a better job on all of my other cheeses.

ArnaudForestier

Great info, many thanks, Sailor.  Will do.  :)
- Paul