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Title: Streptococcus Lactis compared to Lactococcus Lactis
Post by: Boofer on May 26, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
Streptococcus Lactis, Lactobacillus Bulgaricus are the two culture strains in my Cultured Bulgarian Buttermilk. The Streptococcus Lactis (SL?) isn't normally listed as a culture you can purchase (http://glengarrycheesemaking.on.ca/starters.htm). I don't know what flavor aspects it would impart compared with say, Lactococcus Lactis (LL).

If I were interested in making a cheese with raw milk and wanted to boost the effectiveness of the ambient ripening bacterial populations, might I use something like buttermilk (SL, LB) combined with...______?

I'm chasing Jeff Hamm's Derby protocol (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,12748.0/topicseen.html) which doesn't seem to define an added ripening culture, but instead relies upon natural flora to achieve ripeness. I'm not brave enough to just attempt a raw milk cheese without a little assistance from added cultures. He has defined a cultural mix...does it seem reasonable?

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Streptococcus Lactis compared to Lactococcus Lactis
Post by: ArnaudForestier on May 26, 2014, 04:49:23 PM
Boof, I think streptoccus lactis is just the former name for lactococcus lactis sub. lactis.
Title: Re: Streptococcus Lactis compared to Lactococcus Lactis
Post by: Boofer on May 28, 2014, 01:11:10 PM
I believe you are right: "L. lactis subsp. lactis (formerly Streptococcus lactis[22]) is used in the early stages for the production of many cheeses" from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactococcus_lactis). But I wonder why the dairy would continue to reference it with the former name in their product? Eh, someone overlooked the updating or didn't get the memo. ::)

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Streptococcus Lactis compared to Lactococcus Lactis
Post by: Schnecken Slayer on May 28, 2014, 07:45:54 PM
Or they deliberately did it to look "different" from other brands on the market.  ::)