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Title: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: RouxBdoo on June 11, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
OK, here's my problem.  I brought up 1 gallon of fresh raw goat's milk to 86 in a 2 gal. stainless steel stockpot. I used a packet of chèvre culture from New England Cheesemakers. I let it set for 3 minutes and then stirred it well with a perforated spoon.  (This culture also contains the rennet.)

I left it in a room that stays warm (because of my dehumidifier) with a piece of plastic wrap over the top and the lid.  Came home 12 hours and no coagulation, only a bubbly skin on top of the milk.  Not anywhere close to ready for a clean break.

Can this be salvaged?

Did I just get it too hot in the room with the dehumidifier.

I have placed it in my oven overnight, a cooler place than the room with the dehumidifier.

Do you think I got it too warm and overdid it?

I was hoping to have some answers in the morning to see if it coagulated finally.  it will be at about 20 hrs. Hate to waste a gallon of beautiful goats milk on this.

First time Chèvre maker 3rd cheese period.

Thanks

RouxBDoo

Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: ArnaudForestier on June 11, 2014, 01:42:10 PM
How old is the culture?  Did you taste the curd, or gel, whatever we'll call it?  Was there a tang to it?
Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: RouxBdoo on June 11, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Paul, I am checking with the manufacturer to find out, I have a lot #.

No I didn't taste it.  It ended up looking like buttermilk with a layer of loamy cream on it.

It had a big lump in it.  The lump was kinda flat and about the size and shape of your thumb. 

I know I mixed it well but I think..

1. The culture/rennet direct set didn't mix well, although I did it exactly as in the instructions.

2. The room with the dehumidifier was too warm. 

3. I had also put a piece of plastic wrap over my stockpot.  I think it got gassy.  When I make buttermilk I put a coffee filter over the mouth of the gallon jug so it can breathe.  The cheese might have needed to breathe.

Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: steffb503 on June 11, 2014, 06:18:53 PM
Bubbly sounds like some sort of contamination.
Did everything get sanitized first?
Perhaps the milk itself
Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: RouxBdoo on June 11, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
I sterilized everything, more foamy than bubbly I guess.  It is my first attempt, could be inexperience.  Thanks, if you have any other ideas let me know.
Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: steffb503 on June 12, 2014, 09:49:51 AM
no, not just inexperience. It should not be foamy or bubbly.
Title: Re: Help, my chèvre has gone wonky!
Post by: Tiarella on June 12, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
does sound rather like contamination.