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Title: Sealing paste
Post by: John@PC on September 30, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
I like to vacuum bag like a lot of members here for long term storage / aging but considering the O2 barrier properties of modern co-extruded film I've always wanted to find a way to cut a section from a cheese and seal the paste enough to protect from desiccation / cracking and mold but yet prevent the need of having to vacuum bag the whole cheese and slow affrinage.  I know there have been other posts concerning this, and my experiments are still in the early stages, but so far using coconut oil looks promising.  I assume you could use any vegatable oil (or maybe even lard) but the nice thing about coconut oil when you brush it on it creates a thick coating vs. others.  I know you can coat with PVA emulsion (polycoat?) but it is water based and may not wet out the paste fully (just guessing here).  Anyway I've attached a picture of my little "pac-man" cheeses (on the far right and left).  Left is a fontina and right is my last caerphilly we just cut tonight.  If things continue to look promising I'll treat some more "sections" and update.
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: OzzieCheese on September 30, 2014, 02:23:48 AM
Hi John,
I use resealable manually hand Pump evacuation bags.  I bought it from a camp store hoping to store dehydrated food - not so good, they eventually lost their suk !! Air got in a lost a batch of home made beef jerky. I was about to heave them to the bin, when my lovely wife suggested using them for already cut cheeses - we tended before to eat cheese like crazy as we didn't like the dry out aspect.  Now, we can cut a cheese and store the rest, cut another chunk at a later date. I find them useful but as they don't keep their vacuum for long- 1 week at best- I wouldn't use them for long term storage.
--Mal
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: qdog1955 on September 30, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
John,
  Have been trying coconut oil on various things lately, including cooking. I have found that almost all vegetable oils go rancid with time,including olive and peanut oil---but so far the coconut oil seems more stable and doesn't seem to impart any flavors you don't want. Be interesting to see how it works on cheese.
Qdog
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: awakephd on September 30, 2014, 08:44:42 PM
If the primary concern is the oil going rancid, there is a simple solution: motor oil! Never goes rancid. Of course, taste might be an issue ...  :o

I'm just joking, of course, but ... way back many years ago I worked at a summer camp. One of the counselors was told to season a cast-iron skillet with oil. Yes, you guessed it -- he used 10W-30! It was definitely well seasoned ...
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: John@PC on October 01, 2014, 12:02:35 AM
Quote from: awakephd on September 30, 2014, 08:44:42 PM
One of the counselors was told to season a cast-iron skillet with oil. Yes, you guessed it -- he used 10W-30! It was definitely well seasoned ...
That's ridiculous. Everyone knows you need 20W oil to season a skillet  ::).  By the way I checked one of my trial cheeses.  The picture is of a fontina that I coated with coconut oil on the left side and a heavy brine on the right. I was wondering if the brine would establish some kind of protecting rind but all that happened was that a crack formed.  The side with coconut oil looked fine so I coated both sides with some coconut oil with paprika (helps to show where you have the oil).

I meant to add that if you let the coconut oil to partially solidify (at 78 deg F) it goes on like soft butter, spreads good but gives a reasonably thick coating.
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: OzzieCheese on October 01, 2014, 01:38:17 AM
I'm a lard fan !!
Title: Re: Sealing paste
Post by: qdog1955 on October 01, 2014, 10:40:17 AM
  I probably should have mentioned ---we were using the vegetable oils to try to protect our cutters on our meat grinders from rust---thinking it would be safer then food grade silicone-----all the oils got rancid and formed a gunk that was almost impossible to remove.
  For cast iron ---nothing beats MOBILE 1synthetic.