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Title: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: Mermaid on January 21, 2015, 02:59:20 PM
I have been making an appenzeller with full fat raw jersey milk. Just wanted to share some of my pictures. Struggling with control in the affinage stage- any helpful tips are welcome as I am fairly new to cheesemaking.

The first two pictures are of the same batch of cheese - the first at 4 months and the second at 3 months. How long do you all age alpine cheeses? I think 4 or 5 is best for this cheese since it's so high in fat . Has anyone aged full fat jersey cheeses longer? Did you get any rancidity?

The last picture is of a rind I'm having trouble with. Currently 3 months old. It's mushy and crusty and kind of falling off. It's also not a color I'm used to. Grey with white pitting molds and some reddish molds in spots. Any ideas?

Thanks !!!
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: scasnerkay on May 19, 2015, 11:53:05 PM
So how long do you age them??  Perhaps I will try appenzeller tomorrow with my Jersey milk - though smaller than your makes so it would not age as long...

Was your humidity higher than normal with the rind that was mushy and crusty?
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: Bantams on May 20, 2015, 02:44:14 AM
I've found that the Alpine-styles that I've made with Jersey milk - both lightly skimmed and whole milk (5%) were decent at 7-8 months and very good at 11-12 months.  No rancidity issues.
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: Stinky on May 20, 2015, 04:06:15 AM
Quote from: Bantams on May 20, 2015, 02:44:14 AM
I've found that the Alpine-styles that I've made with Jersey milk - both lightly skimmed and whole milk (5%) were decent at 7-8 months and very good at 11-12 months.  No rancidity issues.

What size?
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: qdog1955 on May 20, 2015, 09:25:00 AM
Some of those little holes look like the photos I've seen of  cheese mites. Might want to check.
Qdog
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: Mermaid on May 24, 2015, 12:45:13 AM
I have since improved much on my appenzeller make- will post pictures soon. No cheese mites!

Also I was aging the wheels 4-5 months but that just isnt long enough! Intensely creamy and mild/sweet but less of the nutty caramelly notes I'm going for. Aiming to age them longer but unfortunately must move lots of product for the summer season to make a living :) That's life I guess!
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: Bantams on June 05, 2015, 07:52:19 PM
QuoteQuote from: Bantams on May 19, 2015, 09:44:14 PM

    I've found that the Alpine-styles that I've made with Jersey milk - both lightly skimmed and whole milk (5%) were decent at 7-8 months and very good at 11-12 months.  No rancidity issues.


What size?

Sorry, just checked back here.
They are usually from 6-7 gallons, so about 6-6.5# wheels.
Title: Re: Adventures with appenzeller
Post by: kosztmark on July 06, 2015, 01:27:44 PM
Good looking cheese!

I would be interested in making appenzeller cheese. I was looking for a recipe on this forum, but I could not find any. Could you help me in it?

Thanks,

Mark