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Title: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 28, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
Well I was undecided on which cheese to make today but I have been wanting to do a butterkase. Straight off to 200 Easy Homemade Cheese Recipes where I find...."This is not cheese made of butter but rather a soft, bland cheese with a smooth, buttery texture."  Well we're having none of that so I decided to carry out the recipe as described but to brine the cheese in an 18% brine and a half of a bottle of cognac.  Then I will do a wash of straight cognac on the cheese while it ripens.  Anybody see any problems with this?  Discuss!!! LOL  ???
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on March 28, 2015, 07:55:29 PM
What concentration of brine did it advise?

Will you soak it in water, for funsies? You can re-use the water for brine.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 28, 2015, 08:16:36 PM
It doesn't call for soaking in water or specify a brine strength. I use an 18% brine with half a bottle of cognac added. :P
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 29, 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Well this little experiment had an early end.  I couldn't get the milk I normally use so I went to the new store and tried theirs.  Not worth the effort.  Very poor curd development.  I ended up with a 8" cheese about 2" thick.  I'm still going to brine it in the cognac, as I had the brine already mixed, to see if it picks up any of the fruit flavor from the cognac.  Have to see what develops as it ages out a bit.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on March 29, 2015, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: Al Lewis on March 29, 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Well this little experiment had an early end.  I couldn't get the milk I normally use so I went to the new store and tried theirs.  Not worth the effort.  Very poor curd development.  I ended up with a 8" cheese about 2" thick.  I'm still going to brine it in the cognac, as I had the brine already mixed, to see if it picks up any of the fruit flavor from the cognac.  Have to see what develops as it ages out a bit.

Aw.  :(

Will you try again?
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 29, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
I'll take this one out all of the way and see if it's worth it.  The effects should be the same regardless of the thickness I would think.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on March 29, 2015, 04:55:12 PM
What will all of the way be? One month? Two month?
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 29, 2015, 07:33:20 PM
I don't think the recipe calls for that long.  I'll have to go back and look but I believe it said 2 weeks to a month.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on March 29, 2015, 08:01:24 PM
And how long will you do it?
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on March 29, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
The book says 4 weeks so I guess I'll go with that.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on April 07, 2015, 06:53:20 PM
Well this cheese has ended up being 8" in diameter and about 1 1/2" high.  Drying out quick despite my spraying it with cognac every day. Might cut into it tonight.  I'll post some pictures when I get home.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on April 07, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
It's been.... two and a half weeks?
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on April 07, 2015, 08:01:53 PM
I know but if I wait any longer I'll have to grate this thing.  Drying out way too fast due to the thin cross section.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on April 07, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
Ah, that makes sense. :) Let us know how it turns out.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on April 12, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
Well I was in need of space in the cheese cave so I decided to cut and vacuum bag this.  Taste was still bland so the cognac did nothing for it apart from keeping any, and all, molds away.  Waste of time and money.  No big deal as it still is a very usable daily cheese and may develop a little more character with some more time in the cave. Very pliable. ;D
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Danbo on April 12, 2015, 06:22:58 PM
Looks good - let it age a bit more. I don't think that it will become very strong but the taste will become more complex. A cheese for you. :)
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on April 14, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
Thanks Danbo!  I vacuum packed 3/4s of it to age ;)
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Stinky on April 14, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Yeah. Let it age out longer. You should be pleasantly surprised. The rind does look beautiful, though.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Al Lewis on October 15, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
I took a quarter of this cheese, back when I cut it, and vacuum packed it.  Last night I opened it and the brandy smell was extraordinary!! I tasted some on a cracker and was surprised at the outstanding taste it had taken on.  I know this is basically a fresh cheese but 7 months in a vacuum pack did wonders for it.  Not sure how well it would fare without the brandy, as it had taken on all of the subtleties of the brandy's flavors, but it does great with it!! ;D
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: Duntov on September 04, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
I too let my Butterkase age longer than normal and was surprised at the results.  It retained it texture and smoothness but became much more complex with a slight sharpness but still an Alpine style.  I will be making more for sure.
Title: Re: First Butterkase with a Little Difference?
Post by: valley ranch on October 11, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
My folks use to make a cheese, not unlike this you've shown. When severing it, mom would put slices on a plate and sprinkle it lightly with salt.

I liked the brandy bathing, even though you said it added little or nothing, when the movie is made, we'll keep the Cognac in one scene.


Just wondering, there's been mention of the use of pH meter. Did you use on with this cheese or do you use one at times?