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Title: Started a cheese press today
Post by: trey on April 11, 2015, 10:26:37 PM
Just wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this.  I just kind of threw it together real quick to get an idea on what I was doing.  I will make a nicer one if this works out.  Does anyone see any issues with how I did this?
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: Kern on April 12, 2015, 12:07:52 AM
Looks good to me.  I don't know how much weight you can load it with as there's nothing in the photo that gives a good sense of scale.  But you've got the principle down.  You'd have more versatility if you could more the plunger a little further out on the arm.
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: trey on April 12, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Thanks Kern.

Its about 4 feet long.  I can move the plunger as needed for larger molds.  All I have to do is add another hole to the arm. 
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: Al Lewis on April 12, 2015, 12:25:41 AM
I would say you did a fine job.  The wooden pegs are the weak point when loading weight onto it so keep an eye one them.  Wood has a fairly good shear strength due to the long fibers but it can still fail.  When you hang a weight out on the end you're putting the same load on those dowels as the ram.
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: awakephd on April 12, 2015, 01:08:09 AM
Four feet long? Good Lord -- you should be able to push the cheese right through to China with that much leverage! :)
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: trey on April 12, 2015, 02:04:04 AM
Haha. I didn't measure it. Might be 3 feet. It's a mystery!

Al, I'll keep an eye on the pins. They are oak, so I'm hoping for the best
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: steffb503 on April 12, 2015, 07:44:16 PM
What will keep it from tipping over when you add weight?
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: Al Lewis on April 12, 2015, 08:13:59 PM
The long base.
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: OzzieCheese on April 13, 2015, 04:45:00 AM
@Trey,  Cheese presses are like Light sabres - every Cheddi (sorry SW fans) must make their own.  Well done.  My first one was as yours is - a scissor action - that is the weigh being transferred from one side of the pivot along a pin to the piston.  Nothing wrong with these, used mine for a couple of years without much issue, until I started my Cheddars in earnest. and then I found that the twisting moment at heavy weigh setting was pushing the piston off to one side and jamming against the guide.  This was a bit disconserting when the downward pressure overcame the fiction on the side and the whole thing would pop and groan.   Notice the pivot point at the top..

(https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8832.0;attach=15816;image)

I'm still using it for lighter presses but for cheddars where the force needs to be considerable a symetric force is more stable. 
Today I use one of Bob's (smolt1) design where the pivot and pressure points (mostly) are symetrical.  Though I still need to do some work on the piston moving a bit in the housing.  It is now where as good as his but it produces a good pressure at the piston to close up a small cheddar - about 1.3 Kg.  Any larger and I would be in trouble

(https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14475.0;attach=35650)

A cheese BTW for your engineering efforts.
-- Mal
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: Al Lewis on April 13, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Reminds me of Wyle E Coyotes contraptions to catch the Roadrunner.  LOL  Seriously, very nice presses Mal!!
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: awakephd on April 13, 2015, 02:47:33 PM
Some further reflection -- if the lever really is 4 feet long, and let's say the ram is located at 6" from the pivot, that would give 48/6 = 8x mechanical advantage. This is a good amount, allowing you to press just about any weight you might need. However, Mal's point is very well taken -- how much friction and flex is going to be introduce into the process. Smolt's designs are hard to beat, very well engineered and quite affordable: sturdypress.com
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: OzzieCheese on April 15, 2015, 02:29:48 AM
I have solved the Piston movement issue with some teflon tape - A bit like plumbers Tape with a sticky side - Gotta love Bunnings (a big Hardware Chain in Oz  8) ).  It is about .002 thick and so I can layer it up inside the housing and provide a little fricton mitigation at the same time.  -- Score !! 

-- Mal
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: trey on April 24, 2015, 11:20:23 PM
I used the press last weekend.  I still haven't measured it to see how long it is.  It presses 60lbs with a 10lb weight.  I used it at 50lbs for 12 hours, and didn't have any issues.  I'm happy with it.  I have zero dollars invested, so I got my money out of it already!
Title: Re: Started a cheese press today
Post by: OzzieCheese on April 25, 2015, 12:40:16 AM
Ahh... There you go the right tool at the right price for the right job, and if you are happy with it then - score !!  Well done

-- Mal