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CHEESE TYPE BOARDS (for Cheese Lovers and Cheese Makers) => ADJUNCT - Washed Rind & Smear Ripened => Topic started by: Trumpeteer on May 23, 2015, 02:42:06 AM

Title: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on May 23, 2015, 02:42:06 AM
So yesterday I embarked on the journey into washed rind cheeses, a Taleggio.

My recipe is as follows from Mary Karlin's Artisan Cheese Making at Home...

2 Gallons of Whole Unhomogenized Milk
1/4 tsp Meso Starter (MM 100)
Pinch b. Linens
1/4 tsp CaCl
1/4 tsp Rennet
Kosher Salt

Heat to 90F. Add starter and b.Linens and ripen for 1 hr. Add CaCl then Rennet, Cover and let sit for 30 minutes or until clean break. (took me nearly 40min) Cut curds into 3/4 inch pieces and let sit for 5 minutes. Gently Stir for 30 minutes, removing 2 cups of whey every ten minutes, then let sit for 10 more minutes. Fill Taleggio mold with curds and allow to drain for 12 hrs, flipping every two hours. ( I bought a second bottom plat for this mold to help with flipping) Brine in a saturated brine for 8 hours flipping once halfway through. Remove from brine and air dry for 24 hours at room temp. Place in ripening box at 50F and 90%RH flipping daily. wash with brine of 1/2 cup water with 1 tsp salt added. Discard and make fresh brine weekly. Flip and wash cheese every two days for 4-5 weeks. ( I will be washing daily only 1 side per day, alternating)


I wasn't particularly diligent about taking photos during my make but I plan on updating daily. So to start here is a photo fresh out of the brine.



Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: LoftyNotions on May 28, 2015, 06:54:47 PM
That's a nice start, Trumpeteer. Have a cheese from me.

Are you seeing any color yet?

Larry
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on June 10, 2015, 03:04:45 PM
No colour what so ever,,, I can only assume I have done something wrong but for the life of me I can't figure it out,,,  I have been washing,, airing it out as well,  any ideas as to where I am going wrong?
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: serano on June 11, 2015, 12:10:34 AM
Trumpeteer, i started a Tallegio type the same date as you and mine is the same, no color to speak of.  I have done a few washed rinds before this and found the same thing.  Mine generally start to develop color around week 4 or 5. i just keep plugging away with washing until the linens starts to show.

I dont have/add any geo (same as your recipe), and this may slow the development of B.Linens.  It may also be the strain of linens i have, as a friend has a different brand and his develop quite quickly under the same conditions.
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on June 16, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
So I am finally getting a bit of orange developing in the grooves,, also though I have been developing small bits of blue as well in the grooves,, which I am having quite a bit of trouble getting rid of,, they just keep coming back,,, any suggestions to keep the blues at bay?
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Boofer on June 17, 2015, 02:28:37 AM
Try to gently ease the blues out with a clean toothpick with a little brine and if that doesn't seem to be getting the job done, include a little vinegar. When you're satisfied with your cleaning, dab the grooves dry with a clean paper towel.

HTH.

-Boofer-

Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Al Lewis on June 17, 2015, 02:36:35 AM
  Read this (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,13900.msg111645.html#msg111645).
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on June 21, 2015, 04:10:34 PM
So I have been using toothpicks to manage the blue growth and today I went to go wash only to find that it seems to have exploded with PC, I am really starting to feel like this is an uphill battle,, is it safe to assume same removal process as with the blue,, toothpicks and brine?   picture included below.
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Boofer on June 21, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
Are you washing the cheese? That helps to keep the bad guys at bay.

-Boofer-

Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on June 22, 2015, 04:36:50 AM
I have been washing every day alternating sides
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on July 01, 2015, 06:23:00 PM
So I finally deemed the taleggio to be done with it starting to ooze out of the corners,,, My biggest impression was that it was just far too salty which I am attributing to the brining rather than measured surface salting.  Otherwise it had a fairly mild B.linens flavour but overall  came out as a very lack luster make. I will try this again in the future changing the salting method..
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: H-K-J on July 02, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
Although I'm not a taleggio fan, this looks excellent :o
AC4U (http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/smilie_thumbsup.gif)
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Trumpeteer on July 06, 2015, 04:47:30 PM
Thank You for the cheese
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: John@PC on July 07, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
Really nice result and appearance.  Another cheese for your advice on nixing the brining :).
Title: Re: Taleggio #1
Post by: Boofer on July 07, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Quote from: John@PC on July 07, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
nixing the brining
I think that brining is acceptable, you just have to control how long the cheese is in there. My last effort (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,14634.msg112605.html#msg112605) was just a shade too salty, but that means next time I'll remove it a little earlier. Also, I had added extra salt on the flat surface after I put the cheese in the whey-brine. I probably don't need to do that.  ::)

-Boofer-