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Title: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Revilo on January 07, 2016, 05:35:45 PM
I have been trying to make Stilton recently. This is the recipe I used taken from various recipes on the web....


The first time I made one, I pierced it twice and left it in the cheese cave for 3-4 months. It was very hard and ripe and looked like a blue parmesan (not really as good as it sounds).

The second one, I only pierced once and vacuum packed it about a 3 weeks after making it. It turned out more like a gorgonzola with the extra moisture remaining, but had the crumblyness of a Stilton. I realise I should have pierced it more to increase the blue. I also may have pressed the curds too hard into the mold which stopped the random blue veins going through it.

Has anyone else played with the variables and how they affect the end result?
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Schnecken Slayer on January 07, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
I used the following to form my curds, no pressing.

QuoteDrain the whey from the curds, leave in the pot, cover them to prevent contamination, and leave for 6-8 hours (overnight). During this time, the acidity will increase, and pH will decrease to 4.6.-4.8. You may need to press the curds lightly and figure out a way to drain the whey. The curds should be fairly solid, acidic, and not too dry or too wet after 6-8 hours. If you mold the curds and have too many crevices on the surface, that's too dry of a curd. It's a delicate balance to achieve a soft paste, yet have opening to achieve the blue veining. The process in this howto should work for most people, but adjust for your equipment if necessary.
Mill the curds into smaller pieces (1/2"-1"). Salt the curds at a rate of 2 tsp per gallon milk. Salt evenly. It helps to add half of the salt, mix the salt in by tossing the curds, and salt/mix again.
Pack the curds into molds. Do not press.
Turn the molds over every 15 minutes four times, then every half hour four times, then every hour for 2-4 times. By this time, the top and bottom of the cheese will have formed, and you can leave them in the mold.
Leave the cheese in the mold to drain for 4 days, flipping 1-2 times every day. This is at room temperature.
Check the make here also: http://www.cheesemaking.com/store/pg/26-Making-Cheese.html (http://www.cheesemaking.com/store/pg/26-Making-Cheese.html)
https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,10476.0.html (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,10476.0.html)
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Frodage3 on January 08, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
Hi Revilo,
Your recipe shows pressing before flipping. I've only made blues without pressing (Gorgonzola) similar to Schneken Slayer's, so take this with a grain of salt. I believe flipping gently releases most of the moisture from the inside. Then gradually increasing the pressure will expel more moisture. If you press to begin with, then the rind closes up and water is trapped inside.
HTH
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Al Lewis on January 08, 2016, 04:32:13 PM
Try using this recipe.  I do not wrap mine.  Has worked great for my for years.  http://www.cheesemaking.com/store/pg/26-Making-Cheese.html (http://www.cheesemaking.com/store/pg/26-Making-Cheese.html)  You can see my makes here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,10696.0.html)  and here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,15080.0.html).
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Revilo on January 18, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
Thanks for the tips  :) I will have to try it again. Would love to make a 6 gallon one like you did H-K-J.

By the way, I never pressed the curds with any significant force. Just kind of packed them all into the mold.
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Al Lewis on January 18, 2016, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Revilo on January 18, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
Thanks for the tips  :) Would love to make a 6 gallon one like you did H-K-J.



Pretty sure that was me.  LOL
It's all good though as H-K-J and I are very good friends. ;D
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Revilo on January 24, 2016, 08:22:56 AM
Oh haha sorry  ;D

Will hope to make one like you Al Lewis  ^-^
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Revilo on February 21, 2016, 09:40:17 AM
Sooo...3 weeks ago I bought a 20 L canister and decided to make a big Stilton. There were more curds than expected, so I made a smaller one as well. Didn't have so much time to tend to them after piercing them, but I guess they are looking ok. The smaller one has developed a very rustic looking rind. Will keep them for another couple of weeks at 11 °C.
Pictures at 2 weeks and 3 weeks..
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Al Lewis on February 21, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
Looking great!  Are you sitting them out for an hour a day to air out?
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Frodage3 on February 23, 2016, 02:41:14 AM
Is this canister 20L of milk? What are the dimensions of your cheese?
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Revilo on March 21, 2016, 04:54:50 PM
Hi, sorry it's been a while. Was moving house so I vacuum packed the cheeses in the end. Previously I made sure to air out the cheese ripening fridge/cave daily.

Yes Frodage, it is a 20L canister and the cheeses are about:

A couple of weeks ago, I gave the smaller one to a friend for his birthday. When we cut it open, it was a great mixture of creamy (from the surface ripening) and crumbly in the middle (see pictures). Sadly there wasn't quite as much blue in the middle as I had hoped for....possibly the curds were not pressed long enough, making it easier for it all to consolidate in a mass when filled in to the form. Anyway, working on it  ;D
Other than that, the cheese tasted delicious and we decided it was more of a Gorgonzola than a Stilton  ^-^
The bigger brother is sitting in the fridge at 4°C awaiting his fate...will let you know how it goes
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Schnecken Slayer on March 22, 2016, 04:43:52 AM
It looks alright even if it isn't very blue.
ac4u for showing us the creamy goodness.
Title: Re: Stilton Attempts
Post by: Al Lewis on March 22, 2016, 12:41:15 PM
The curd may not have been dry enough at molding therefore no little gaps for the blue to form in.  Other than that it looks good! AC4U ;D