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Title: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 21, 2017, 03:13:37 PM
Okay, after reading about Boofer amazing smooth rind tallegio I decided I had to do another stinky cheese so I went for  muenster as I had never made one and love the cheese.  I used the recipe from 200 Easy Home Made Cheeses, Tim Smith also has a good one in his book, to make one 4 pound cheese.  I mixed 1/8 tspn of the B. Linens with some brine and used it for a wash.  Turns out that works great. Once the growth started I did a schmier to keep the unwanted molds down. Here is some cheese porn photos of the progression.  It's now a month old so I'll keep this up until I taste it and let you all know how it turned out.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Duntov on January 21, 2017, 03:38:18 PM
I am so jealous!  The cheese looks great and nice to see your new cave and tubs being put to use.  AC4U
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 21, 2017, 03:41:58 PM
Thank you Duntov and thanks for the cheese. I'm really liking the progression on this one.  Every once in a while you do one of those "first time" cheeses and it just works out great.  Hoping this is one of those. :o  I used the ripening box to drive the RH up a bit.  My cave is usually 54°F and 85% RH but I needed something closer to 90-95% for this one to develop.  It also helped keeping unwanted molds away and the stink down a tiny bit.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: awakephd on January 22, 2017, 03:17:53 PM
Looking good! AC4U.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: john H on January 22, 2017, 10:52:17 PM
Looks amazing Al. I have never made a muenster will have to take a closer look at this one. AC4Y
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: DoctorCheese on January 22, 2017, 10:56:48 PM
AC4U
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: AnnDee on January 24, 2017, 05:46:21 PM
This looks good Al, I always want to make muenster but I am too scared it will be too stinky. As it is, my family thinks that my 6 months old Tomme is smelling like dried rotten fish.  :P
Please post how this turns out in the end.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 24, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: AnnDee on January 24, 2017, 05:46:21 PM
This looks good Al, I always want to make muenster but I am too scared it will be too stinky. As it is, my family thinks that my 6 months old Tomme is smelling like dried rotten fish.  :P
Please post how this turns out in the end.

It is stinky, but I will be sure and post the result.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: DoctorCheese on January 24, 2017, 09:38:55 PM
Which strain of B. linens did you use?
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 25, 2017, 03:09:01 AM
Quote from: DoctorCheese on January 24, 2017, 09:38:55 PM
Which strain of B. linens did you use?

SR3

http://www.cheeseconnection.net/product/bacteria-linens-for-washed-rind-cheeses/ (http://www.cheeseconnection.net/product/bacteria-linens-for-washed-rind-cheeses/)
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 28, 2017, 05:55:33 PM
Here's a pic from this morning.  Going strong!
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: DoctorCheese on January 28, 2017, 06:50:35 PM
How old is it and that picture?
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 28, 2017, 06:53:37 PM
34 days. ;D
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: john H on January 28, 2017, 06:56:36 PM
Nice even growth of B. Linens Al. Must have a beautiful smell of a barn yard.... :P

John
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: nccheesemike on January 28, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
AC4U. That cheese is looking great.  :)
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on January 28, 2017, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: john H on January 28, 2017, 06:56:36 PM
Nice even growth of B. Linens Al. Must have a beautiful smell of a barn yard.... :P

John

Smells like a dirty sock factory! LOL ;D
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: AnnDee on January 29, 2017, 08:45:49 AM
The colour is impressively orange! I can imagine the smell ;D
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 10, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
Finally cut this today and vacuum packed most of it.  A bit crumbly but absolutely delicious.  It will still slice as thin as commercial slices without breaking.  I'm calling this one a success!  The smell has seeped into the paste giving it that awesome Muenster flavor!
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Duntov on February 10, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Looks picture perfect.  Congrats Al!
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 10, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Thanks John! ;D
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: DoctorCheese on February 10, 2017, 06:56:52 PM
OOOOOOH, I love how it is appears very developed but is not runny! How do you do that. Both of my B linens cheeses so far are soft in the middle. Maybe more pressing on my part. I need to get back in to making cheese, schools been keeping my busy  :'( Have a cheese for your inspiring result!
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 10, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
This one weighs around 5 pounds so that might have something to do with it. :o :o
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: DoctorCheese on February 11, 2017, 02:49:17 AM
Well color me jealous  :P
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Gregore on February 11, 2017, 07:10:13 AM

Looks yummy

Also if one makes it lower ph it takes longer to get runny , and will have a little crumble to it

I some times play with this with the reblochon , let the ph go a little lower and it keeps a sharper flavor when ready and if i push it a little lower ph than standard I can even get the cheese past the 60 days needed for raw milk.

Could be good if I was ever crazy enough to do this for a living .....not !
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: AnnDee on February 11, 2017, 07:13:54 AM
Wow, it looks delicious! AC4U Al.
Is the rind a little tacky or is this quite dry?
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Duntov on February 11, 2017, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: DoctorCheese on February 11, 2017, 02:49:17 AM
"I am a cheese loving college student headed towards a PhD in Psychology working with what I have to produce some yummy morsels. "

Cheese addiction is an enjoyable psychological disorder.   :)
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 11, 2017, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: AnnDee on February 11, 2017, 07:13:54 AM
Wow, it looks delicious! AC4U Al.
Is the rind a little tacky or is this quite dry?
Thanks guys!  Ann, the outside is quite dry.  I misted it almost daily and did a schmeir about once a week with a small brush.  It would stay tacky for a day or two and then dry again despite keeping it in a ripening container.  I just kept a close eye on it and made sure it didn't dry too much.  The crumbliness, is that a word, would be due to the pressing weight I used.  I think the next one will have a little less weight.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: AnnDee on February 11, 2017, 05:05:20 PM
How long did you dry the cheese before putting it in ripening container?
I'm tempted to make this one but prefer to have a dry schmier rind than tacky.
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 11, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
Ann I put this into the ripening box after brining and held it at room temp with the lid nearly closed for about three days draining the whey daily and misting with the brine with the B Linens in it.  It stayed tacky nearly the entire ripening period and only started to dry about the last two weeks.  Once that started I paid close attention to it and continued to mist it and do the schmier to keep it from cracking.  You will want it at 90-95% RH during the initial period and then into the cave at 85%.  I placed wet paper towels in the bottom of the ripening container to get the 95%.  I use some of the directions from Tim Smith's book.  I would however press with less weight than called for if you don't want it to become crumbly.  Good luck!  This one will really stink up the room when the cave is open.  :o
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Boofer on February 11, 2017, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: Al Lewis on February 10, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
This one weighs around 5 pounds so that might have something to do with it. :o :o
Wow!  :o

Hefty, hefty, hefty.... Seems like someone made a hefty Reblochon not so long ago. It's difficult to ripen to the core with that large a mass of curd. 200 Easy Cheeses calls for a little smaller form factor (500g).

Awesome color, Al. I'm afraid mine won't have color that deep.  :(  Have a cheese.

-Boofer-


Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Al Lewis on February 12, 2017, 12:39:02 AM
Thank you Boofer.  Tim Smith calls for a larger cheese.  I kind of mixed the two recipes. >:D
Title: Re: My First Muenster
Post by: Boofer on February 12, 2017, 03:08:43 AM
Reminds me of the time I almost blew up the house with an early chemistry set.  ;)

If it tastes good, eat it. Kudos, Al.

-Boofer-