This was my first Parmesan I ever made using two gallons of p/h milk. It has now been aging for one year and I decided to give it a try. It is very hard but not extremely dry. It shaves and grates very well. Except for Parmigiano Regiano, this is the best Parm I have tasted. I will put half of it back in the cave for another year. I currently have a four gallon raw milk Parm in the cave also.
AC4U!
Nice cheese. I am not patient enough for the longer aged cheeses, but I like seeing yours.
Jobe, the key to patience on the long-aged cheeses is to alternate making shorter-aged cheeses with the long-aged makes. This way you can keep the "pipeline" full of cheese to enjoy, and can forget about that cheese aging away in the back of the "cave."
Here's an example schedule based on my experience / habits - when I can, I often make one 4-gallon cheese per weekend. (Lately, too often, it has been zero cheeses - too busy! - but once in a while I manage to get two cheeses made in a weekend.)
- Weekend 1: Caerphilly - it will be ready to start eating by weekend 4 (three weeks later) - or even a bit earlier.
- Weekend 2: Lancashire or a set of Camemberts on weekend 2; either of these take about 6 weeks to age. (I generally make Cams in a 2-gallon batch.)
- Weekend 3: Asiago, Emmental, maybe a Stilton or Gorgonzola - something that can be ready as soon as 3 months (though the first two in particular can be aged out much, much longer).
- Weekend 4: Begin enjoying the Caerphilly, and make a long aging cheese - cheddar, which needs a minimum 6 month aging time in my experience, or parma/romano, which need AT LEAST 12 months, or whatever else.
- Weekend 5: Still enjoying the Caerphilly, and only a couple of weeks away from opening the Lancashire or Camemberts - but it is time to get another cheese into the pipeline, so re-start the cycle at #2, making another Lancashire or set of Cams.
Once you get a cycle like this started, making a short-aging (6-week) cheese every 3 weeks or so, you can keep yourself satisfied with plenty of cheese indefinitely; some makes are aging away at the back of the cave, and some are coming in periodically along the way, and by Christmas you have quite an impressive collection of varieties to offer to your family. :) Obviously I don't (and can't, and wouldn't want) to stay on a strict rotation - I try something new along the way, or maybe I get off-track for a while, going several weekends without making any cheese. I can always start back at #1 with a Caerphilly to re-start the pipeline, but at this point, I usually still have enough stock from the 3 and 6 and 12 month aging cheeses that I can start back at #2 instead.
I think I will just purchase long aged cheeses. With how much I experiment, there is too high a probability of waiting 12 months for a cheese to end up being messed up because I never follow recipes >:D In addition, I can vicariously enjoy the old aged cheeses you fine people make.
Quote from: DoctorCheese on June 25, 2017, 01:42:22 AM
I think I will just purchase long aged cheeses. With how much I experiment, there is too high a probability of waiting 12 months for a cheese to end up being messed up because I never follow recipes >:D In addition, I can vicariously enjoy the old aged cheeses you fine people make.
Then you should have bought your Cotija at the store. lol
How do I give you a cheese? You certainly deserve it!
Quote from: Duntov on June 25, 2017, 04:03:03 AM
Then you should have bought your Cotija at the store. lol
I have never seen smoked paprika Anejo in the store, which is what I actually made, and I do not appreciate your sass.
Quote from: DoctorCheese on June 25, 2017, 06:36:46 AM
I have never seen smoked paprika Anejo in the store, which is what I actually made, and I do not appreciate your sass.
I am not being sassy Jobe. Just pointing out that your comment about Parm is no different than your mock Añejo (not Cotija) venture. Portland has a big selection of ethnic Mexican markets and I am positive you can find Añejo in your area. In fact, the largest maker of Añejo in the US, El Mexican brand by Marquez Brothers has an office in Portland indicating they are supplying the Portland area. Give them a call at 503-257-8080 and ask them where to get it in your local.
My mistake! I must have misinterpreted your words. While I love technology dearly, it is often very difficult to pick up on the connotations of words when they are in text format. Often I think the reader sees themselves in the text, rather than the intentions of the writer. Almost akin to a Rorschach test. In regards to the making of my Anejo cheese being in stark contrast to my expressed disinterest in making cheeses that must be aged a long time, I would submit a plea of guilty. That cheese, being from early in my still short cheese making career, was an attempt to create something I love, throwing aside what obstacles may lie in obstruction to my goal (such as the aging time). I was blinded by love, as young people, or even just people who are young in their experience of a craft they have become passionate about, are want to be.
Thank you for providing me with a phone number and the other supplemental information. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar. Best of luck on your endeavors in all avenues of life.
Quote from: smcaro on June 25, 2017, 05:48:07 AM
How do I give you a cheese? You certainly deserve it!
To give a cheese, click on the "Thumbs Up" link below the person's name. A nice way to show appreciation for pictures, extra effort, success, or even humble sharing of mistakes! :)
Congratulations. A great looking Parmesan.
Have a cheese from me for keeping your hands off it so long.
Congratulations! Great looking cheese!
How did you aged it? Vacuumed? Oiled?
Quote from: stephmtl222 on June 26, 2017, 12:19:41 PM
Congratulations! Great looking cheese!
How did you aged it? Vacuumed? Oiled?
Sorry for the late reply. It is a natural rind that I oiled twice during the year of aging. I think bagging would be a definate no-no for a Parm.
Looks great! AC4U!
Quote from: Duntov on July 08, 2017, 05:16:18 PM
Sorry for the late reply. It is a natural rind that I oiled twice during the year of aging. I think bagging would be a definate no-no for a Parm.
John, I have vac-bagged my parmesan makes, simply because I was afraid they would dry into a brick after 12+ months of aging -- both due to the relatively small size of make (4 gallons instead of 100 gallons or more) and due to the fact that my "cave" usually stays too dry. I do let my parms dry, just oiling occasionally, for a couple of months, and then vac-bag to prevent them from drying out further. I wouldn't be surprised if they might turn out better if I could age them out naturally, but they still do turn out quite well. It is really interesting the way they start to turn darker and darker caramel color as they get up to 18 - 24 months or so.
My guess - and admittedly that's all it is - is that I would gain more if I could make them from raw milk than I would gain from natural aging - but obviously best of all would be raw milk AND natural aging!
I also vote for bagging Parmesan.
Mine were great, also darkened with age.
I need to issue a correction. I confused my two different makes of Parm. The one I have shown in this thread that is one year old was a two gallon p/h make and was cream coated after the first month of aging. My second Parm is a four gallon raw milk make and it is aging naturally with an olive oil rub. If I feel it is drying out too much, I will probably cream coat it also.
The cream coat breaths unlike a bagging technique. I think long aged cheeses need to breath to properly develop. The problem with a parm is that it really is hard to judge how the inside is doing unless you break it open. I am not against bagging entirely as I do bag younger cheeses like a Butterkase and a young Goudas destined for the smoker mainly to retain moisture and to avoid bad rinds. I have found that long aged rinds on Gouda and Swiss styles don't taste very well at all.
Sorry for the mistake. Old age is taking a grip on me. But i still wouldn't bag a Parm personally as I feel cream coat slows down the drying out very nicely while still allowing it to breath that I think is a vital part of the final taste.
John, based on what I have read here, I think you are right that the cream coating is the best alternative. I haven't (yet) invested in any, so no personal experience, but your own experience clearly bears that out!