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Title: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Cheese Head on July 12, 2009, 03:17:22 PM
While recently on holiday in Italy, I took several pictures of cheese stores and markets and their cheeses including these of a store in small hilltop fortress town called Pienza, in Tuscany.

Click on picture to get full size image, (excuse reflectiion of me in second picture) pictures of the cheese in this store posted in their respective boards, all the pictures from Pienza stores posted on website (https://cheeseforum.org/Gallery/Gallery.htm).

Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: wharris on July 13, 2009, 12:44:43 AM
That last picture is what i would like my basement would look like.  nice.

BTW, in the last picture, are the cheeses on the right hand side, middle row waxed? (the yellow ones...)

Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Cheese Head on July 13, 2009, 03:02:04 AM
Would be a nice basement, yep, they were all waxed as far as I could tell.
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Zoey on August 31, 2009, 10:18:09 AM

Oh, how lovely. my heart melts while looking at this. I sooo wish I could have my own cheese store once...
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Sailor Con Queso on September 01, 2009, 04:07:42 AM
Are these cheese stores cooled or just room temperature?
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: DeejayDebi on September 02, 2009, 03:11:57 AM
Just makes you sick to see all those lovely cheeses doesn't it?
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Cheese Head on September 02, 2009, 11:18:55 AM
Sailor, sorry I put that info in the first store's post (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,1694.0.html) but not this one.

Not just room temp but was probably the warmest day of the year that day at 86F/30C! It would have cooled off at night and rest of year. The cheese did not have condensation on them so they hadn't been stored in fridge overnight and placed on shelves for store opening.
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Sailor Con Queso on September 03, 2009, 12:23:02 AM
So are we being too anal about "cave" temperatures for aging? I'm sure these cheeses must be aged at cooler temps before they get to the cheese shop. But, their inventory can't turn over THAT fast, so they continue to age at the much higher store temperatures. The fact is, bacteria will grow much better at the higher temperatures. However, molds generally favor cooler temps.

Technically, as I said in another post, after 60 days there is no food left in our cheeses for bacteria to feed on. At that point, it might make sense to move a cheese out of the cave and into a room temp environment for longer aging. That might speed up a sharp cheddar from 1 year to 4 months or a picante Parmesan from 2 years to 6 months.

Do the French, Spanish, English and other countries sell cheese in unrefrigerated stores like that???
Title: Re: Formaggio Store #2 Pictures @ Pienza, Tuscany, Italy
Post by: Cheese Head on September 03, 2009, 12:35:43 AM
Sailor, most of these were Italian type cheeses which I don't know, maybe they can survive short term warmer weather? I did notice that a few were sweating small dribbles of presumably oil. BTW, all the pictures from this store are posted on the website (https://cheeseforum.org/Gallery/Italy_Tuscany_Pienza_Store_2/Images_Italy_Tuscany_Pienza_Store_2.htm).

Don't know about room temp aging cheeses after ~ 60 days, but in answer to your question open air cheese markets in other countries: