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Title: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: MDSKPR on July 20, 2009, 09:20:28 PM
Hi I found this Rennet(is it rennet?) produced from some type of bacteria: http://www.danlac.com/ingredient/valiren-powder-10-sachets-starter-culture (http://www.danlac.com/ingredient/valiren-powder-10-sachets-starter-culture)

How would I use this would I use the same amount of valiren powder as rennet for a recipe???
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: Cheese Head on July 21, 2009, 12:33:48 AM
Hi MDSPKR and welcome to this forum!

I searched and Danlac also has a 100 sachet package (http://www.danlac.com/ingredient/valiren-powder-box-100-sachets) which gives more detail. Yes it is rennet, microbial rather than animal based, no problem.

Rennet comes in different strengths, thus I'd recommend using amount as per their recommendation and then on next batch using more or less depending on how fast a curd you get. Some rennet guidelines here (https://cheeseforum.org/Making/Best_Practice_Renneting.htm).
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: Cheese Head on July 21, 2009, 12:44:07 AM
PS: I'm using CHR Hansen brand freeze dried powdered rennet in the green pouches in the link above. I'm probably the only one here using powdered, most people use liquid, I find I need quite a bit more of it than package directions, maybe mine is old.
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: MDSKPR on July 21, 2009, 11:11:51 AM
Thanks alot...it looks like a very good product :) cheap
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: DeejayDebi on September 25, 2009, 12:28:50 AM
Welcome mdspkr!
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: Cheese Head on September 25, 2009, 03:39:22 AM
Also, I just searched the internet and Valiren (http://www.mayasan.com/mr.html) is made by an Istanbul Turkey based Dairy Additives company called Mayasan A.S (http://www.mayasan.com). No technical data sheets available on their website.
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: hplace on September 25, 2009, 04:34:36 AM
It seems I have read that microbial rennet tends to produce bitterness in aged cheeses. Does anyone have any experience with that?
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: DeejayDebi on September 26, 2009, 01:00:05 AM
This is all I could find.

Cheddar - avoiding the use of bitter starters and microbial rennets, and ripening at a low temperature (i.e., 5 °C).
Title: Re: Rennet - Powdered, Valiren Brand
Post by: Cheese Head on September 26, 2009, 11:04:10 AM
To add to Debi's response, I updated and made webpages (https://cheeseforum.org/Making/Making.htm) yesterday on Coagulants, Rennets, and Coagulation Problems. On the Rennets page it gives some info that as Debi says, Rhizomucor miehei microbial based rennet such as Mayasan's Valiren brand is fine for young cheese but not for long aged ones.