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Title: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 16, 2010, 08:40:52 PM
A few other members here have made Halloumi (also spelt Haloumi) Cheese, this my first time based on the several recipes compared here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2912.0.html).

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Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 16, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
Pictures #1 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 16, 2010, 08:41:27 PM
Pictures #2 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 16, 2010, 08:41:40 PM
Pictures #3 . . .
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Brie on January 17, 2010, 03:24:44 AM
Wow-many variables in this post! I've used Ricki Carroll's recipe several times and have had no problems (I've always added dried mint to the curds). I adore this cheese broiled, doused with brandy or ouzo and then flamed--with a splash of lemon to put out the flames. Pita, mandatory. Let us know which recipe you've whittled yourself down to.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: DeejayDebi on January 17, 2010, 05:56:29 AM
Looking great so far John - way to go!
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 17, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
Brie, I think you are referring to so many variables in the long post I built comparing several Halloumi making recipes (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2912.0.html). Yes many, on ingredients they are milk type, lipase, starter culture, CaCl2, and then in process they are cutting size, whether to cook cut curds or not, how and at what wight press, what size to cut serving blocks to, time to boil serving blocks, and amount of salt to sprinkle on cheeses. Lots!

Debi, thanks, will add pictures when use them.

Well I'm not sure these turned out that well, will see when frying. Most recipes said sliced pressed curds should float after 45 minutes, like thebelgianpanda's Haloumi making (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,319.msg10745.html#msg10745), mine were when floating at 25 minutes. Also, I couldn't get mine to fold without cracking, so texture was not correct, or cheese had cooled to much when tried to fold. Any advise appreciated.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: DeejayDebi on January 17, 2010, 07:43:12 PM
The slices look very soft and pliable. From here they look perfect! Nice looking mint leaves too!
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Johanyrh on January 18, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
The Halloumi looks great!
I remove the cheese from the whey as soon as it surfaces (about 20 – 25 minutes). It is very soft and pliable at this stage and a person should be able to fold it over without it cracking. When I press my Halloumi it is about 12-14 mm thick, might be easier to fold!
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 18, 2010, 10:15:28 PM
Hi Johany, I saw your post on removing after surfaces. I cut mine about 1.5 cm thick and cracked, maybe mine wasn't cooked and thus plasticy enough? In the picture above you can see the indents of the mat after 20 min cooling, so mine was still still I think too soft.

When I look at some of the pictures in the links posted here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2912.msg23797.html#msg23797), it looks thicker before folded in half.
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Michelle on January 19, 2010, 02:32:03 AM
Hi John,

When I make haloumi I sprinkle it with salt and fold it as soon as it comes out of the whey.  As soon as it starts to cool it looses a lot of its elasticity.  And mine usually only takes 25 minutes in the whey till it floats and is ready.

Cheers,
Michelle
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on January 19, 2010, 03:02:52 AM
Michelle, thanks for the feedback, so that's 3 of us with floating after 25 minutes, Johany, you, and I. Way less than most of those recipes I compared (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2912.0.html).

Good idea on folding while still hot, also I didn't maintain the whey temp at ~ 185F but let it drop to 145F when I placed the initially cold slabs in it, next time I'll keep it hot.

Also, Francoise recommended here to salt the curds before pressing  (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,319.msg23810.html#msg23810) to keep the pH up to help avoid texture issues.

Johany & Michelle, any tips on texture issues to know if "boiled" enough?
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: DeejayDebi on January 21, 2010, 02:47:44 AM
Hey that looks mighty tasty there Giovanni! Good job!
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Johanyrh on January 22, 2010, 03:27:04 PM
Sorry for taking so long to reply spent a couple of days in hospital.

From the photo in the pan the halloumi  looks normal to me! As far as I know the halloumi is cooked when it surfaces, so I remove it from the whey as soon as possible afterwards (I am not sure what the effect of over cooking would be). I wont be able to make cheese for a couple of weeks (at least four), when I make  halloumi again I will take photos of the slices just before I add them to the whey for boiling and you should then be able to compare with your results

Do you enjoy the taste of halloumi?
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Daznz on July 27, 2011, 08:01:50 AM
So did it taste any good John  ;D 
Title: Re: John's Cheese #056 - Halloumi #1
Post by: Cheese Head on July 27, 2011, 10:37:56 PM
Yep, OK but I haven't made any since, at bottom of my OP there's some info on texture and taste.