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Title: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Miss Muffet on August 18, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
I made up some starter culture using my suppliers instructions, which was to incubate 1/4tsp of culture in 100ml of UHT milk until I had a yogurt consistency.  I did this but the smallest volume of UHT I could purchase was 200ml so I just made up that amount (with 1/2 tsp of culture).  All this went according to plan, & I successfully used 100ml of the culture to make some feta (which as an aside I was very proud of  :)) 

However, I had 100ml left over so I thought I could just freeze it and use it in my next batch.  I have just defrosted it and it is seems to have lost all body and appears quite watery.  Why might this have happened and more importantly can I use it?  Or does the fact that it no longer looks like yogurt mean that it won't work as a starter?
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Bowl on August 18, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure why it has gone watery - it may be because the UHT milk?

Here's a link to some mesophilic starter culture that you can freeze  :)

https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=15.0 (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=15.0)
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Sailor Con Queso on August 19, 2010, 01:31:24 AM
Being watery will have no effect on its value as a starter culture.
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Miss Muffet on August 19, 2010, 03:30:01 AM
Really??  So it doesn't indicate that the culture has broken down then??  I wasn't too sure whether I could use it so I made another batch but does this mean I can successfully freeze & later use the remnants of this new batch? 

Thanks for that Bowl.  I had seen that link but I wanted to know whether I could successfully freeze the cultures I have on hand.  Buttermilk isn't the easiest thing to locate here sometimes.
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Gina on August 19, 2010, 03:46:05 AM
I use frozen cultures without problem, and they are never the same firm consistency as when they first went into the freezer. Freezing changes the texture of many things. :)
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 09:32:04 PM
I read in my book that its best not to keep frozen buttermilk starter for more than a month? I'm not sure if this is the reason but I just thought I'd mention..
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: linuxboy on August 19, 2010, 09:33:45 PM
That's a different issue, that's about culture viability. It's also an overly aggressive estimate. A properly frozen culture made from properly prepared starter will last 3-6 months without problems.
Title: Re: Liquid Mesophillic Starter Culture - Freezing Shelf Life & Thawed Consistency?
Post by: Miss Muffet on August 20, 2010, 06:01:32 AM
Excellent!  Thanks for that.  I shan't be so hasty to toss it next time.  And I will freeze the new starter I made with confidence.

Cheers