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Title: Bitter Taste
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 08:26:24 PM
Hey Gang,
So, I opened and tried my first waxed cheese today but it had a bitter after taste? Its no cheese in particular, its just a generic hard cheese from my John Seymour book. I used full fat pasturised store milk with a freeze dried starter culture and liquid animal rennet. I also added calcium chloride before the culture, is this ok?  The PH was 4.5 at 10 hours after cutting. I then salted and pressed for 24 hours, left for it 4 days at room temp 20c and then waxed and left in a cheese cave at 11c for 3 months turning weekly. When it was cut there was a milky residue, the cheese looked fine, slightly dry like a Cheshire. It smelt and looked fine, it just had a bitter after taste and didn't have that nice cheese taste. Maybe it needs longer to mature as my cheese cave is pretty cold? I rewaxed it and put back in the cave to try in 2 months.. Or maybe I'm wasting my time?

Help much appreciated!  :)
steve
   
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: linuxboy on August 19, 2010, 08:50:36 PM
How much rennet did you use?
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 09:09:38 PM
I used 1 tsp of animal rennet for 7.5 liters of milk
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: linuxboy on August 19, 2010, 09:11:02 PM
That's why, it should be about half of that, even a little less. You have excess proteolysis due to the rennet. Also, the acidity was too low at salting, which doesn't help. Acidity should be 5.4 at salting.
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 09:13:45 PM
Thank you so much.
Damn damn... I have a feeling my other 6 cheeses will be bitter :¬/
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 09:24:18 PM
sorry, just one more question.
I did try less rennet on my first batch but I couldn't get a clean break even after an hour which is why I added more? So should I just stick to the right dose and leave it until I do, even if it takes a few hours?
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: linuxboy on August 19, 2010, 09:32:12 PM
The idea of clean break is too subjective. Use the flocculation method (search the forum). If your sets are weak, try a different brand of milk. Some milks are just not suitable for anything but lactic curd. Also try adding CaCl2.
Title: Re: Bitter Taste
Post by: mcfly on August 19, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
Maybe its the pasturised store milk, Ill try find some raw milk, its hard in London :¬/

Thanks again!