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Title: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: Justin Levi on November 09, 2010, 12:49:03 AM
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[What is an artisional cheese maker?, and how can a person get there?
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: linuxboy on November 09, 2010, 01:00:55 AM
A person who makes cheese in small batches (as opposed to large industrial scale cheesemaking). You get there by making cheese in small batches, being a cheese artisan.
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: susanky on November 09, 2010, 02:42:30 AM
Cheese artisan SOUNDS like an expert.  I can get there just by making cheese in small batches?  I made two cheeses this weekend.  I am an cheese artisan!  Or am I....  I think I'll wait awhile before I claim that title. 
Susan
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: zenith1 on November 09, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
oh boy that opens a can of worms. As we all know, art is in the eye of the beholder. Artisnal cheese makers by definition are always small, and the connotation is that there product is a work of art. Sadly that is not true for some. To become one I think that you would develop a unique and very high quality product of you own and produce it in small batches to protect the quality and uniqueness of your final product.
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: smilingcalico on January 11, 2011, 02:52:41 AM
You can find a discussion of this topic at https://cheeseunderground.blogspot.com/2007/06/definition-of-artisan-cheese.html (https://cheeseunderground.blogspot.com/2007/06/definition-of-artisan-cheese.html)
Basically yes, as noted, handcrafted in small batches with little mechanization.  Where I work we produce farmstead artisan cheese, meaning we make small batches of cheese from milk produced only on our farm.
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 11, 2011, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: zenith1 on November 09, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
oh boy that opens a can of worms. As we all know, art is in the eye of the beholder. Artisnal cheese makers by definition are always small, and the connotation is that there product is a work of art. Sadly that is not true for some. To become one I think that you would develop a unique and very high quality product of you own and produce it in small batches to protect the quality and uniqueness of your final product.

This goes to the distinction between an artist and artisan; between art and craft.  And I hold no pejorative in either word.  I know that as a writer, an actor, and a chef, in my time, I've wrestled with where on the continuum I would place these efforts, and if while in my younger years I'd have placed all three on the "art" polar swing, I have long found no taint of shame in ascribing "interpreter" to actor and "artisan" to chef.

I'd argue the same for a cheesemaker; if an artisan is one who uses one's hands to craft something into a thing of useful worth, then in my book, anyone who applies learning, experience and a high threshold of care to forge quality cheeses by handmade, traditional methods is, well, an artisan. 
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: Oberhasli on January 11, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
Nicely said Arnaud!  I like that explanation.   :)

Bonnie
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: ArnaudForestier on January 24, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: Oberhasli on January 11, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
Nicely said Arnaud!  I like that explanation.   :)

Bonnie

Ha....a bit late on the thanks, Bonnie.  Is that your goat, by any chance?  Beautiful animal!
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: Oberhasli on February 03, 2011, 05:22:09 PM
I'm a bit late on the reply, but, yes, that is my 15 yr. old Oberhasli doe named Meggie.  We have had her since she was 2.  She is "retired", but I have her younger offspring and others as well for milking and cheesemaking.  Obers are great goats!  Thanks for noticing her pretty face. :)

Bonnie
Title: Re: Artisan Cheese Maker - Definition?
Post by: zenith1 on February 08, 2011, 03:52:13 AM
found this advertisement on Youtube that pretty well sums up the definition of what an artisan cheesemaker is

I Am An Artisan Cheesemaker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6VKDMNaiQY#ws)