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Title: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Cheese Head on December 06, 2010, 12:56:04 AM
MILK CULTURING
CURD MAKING
CURD WASHING
PRESSING
SALTING
AGING


NOTES
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Boofer on December 06, 2010, 01:30:38 AM
What an adventure! John, I was on the edge of my seat!!  :D

I do have some questions. I've got teaspoons, tablespoons, and a measuring trio that gives me a pinch, a dash, and a smidgen. What's a puff?

I see at 2:20 and 63F you added your cultures and at 3:08 you turned off the heat, having reached your target temp of 88.5F. Your pH was 5.36 when you added the rennet? How's that possible? I struggle to drop a few points from cold milk and am at 6.65 after 2 hours. I can repeat this with multiple makes so there seems to be a misfire somewhere in my process.

The cheeses look great. Thanks for the Sunday afternoon cheapo thrills.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: zenith1 on December 06, 2010, 02:19:53 PM
Nice John,and the best part was that you got to go cycling!
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Cheese Head on December 10, 2010, 11:18:33 AM
Hi Boofer, puff is kind of like a popcorn far _ s ;), basically I just give it a few little fluffs to introduce the Geotrichum candidum as an extra rind protectant.

Agree pH 5.36 at that stage is not possible, ergo my pH meter is completely useless and didn't use it for the rest of the make.

zenith1, I'm amazed at how long it takes a large volume with small surface area to warm to ambient room temperature! From my records below it took 22 hours for 8 US gallons / 30.4 liters to rise 25F / 14C with an initial differential from room temp of ~35F / 3C. If I'd have left the jugs to sit out rather than putting in my stockpot vat it would have warmed much faster due to the higher surface area to volume ratio. Going again today, when it warms up.

Latest picture below, getting some mold which I've brushed off twice, as my cheese cave's humidity is too high, discussion on that problem here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2727.0.html).
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Boofer on December 14, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
Hey, those look really nice! Good on you, John.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Cheese Head on December 16, 2010, 11:07:51 AM
Well sugar, to be polite.

Couple days ago found these two cheeses had surface cracks from ultra low humdity in my small fridge/freeze cheese cave being now too low, found temp was 42F and that my external Johnson thermostat read 71F, so figured the thermostat was kaput and started looking for warranty card and covered cheese with bowl to lock in humidity and help stress cracks to heal. Just looked again yesterday and found the temp sensor wire had fallen out of the fridge and thus the high reading, learning is to duct tape the sensor into the fridge!!!

Picture below is after 1 day covered by bowl and thus cracks partially healed.
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: DeejayDebi on December 18, 2010, 06:11:54 PM
Nice when they heal themselves. Looking good there Giavanni!
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Cheese Head on January 21, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
OK, so my cracks did not heal, got bigger and I couldn't vacuum bag seal as that was my Christmas gift so the cracks got mold inside that I couldn't clean out, so at 31 days I gave up and cut and started eating one of them.

Not a lot of flavour development, understandable at 31 days. Also, mechanical holes in the pate, from under-pressing. Looks like I need more weight than my stepladder and paint bucket, or I should press the two Kadova brand molds in series (stacked one on top of other) rather than parallel (side-by-side) as was done here.

(Excuse washed out white colour in first picture from flash in camera).
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: Jessica_H on January 26, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
Quoteso the cracks got mold inside that I couldn't clean out

I have some cracks with mold...I was going to cut them out and then wax right away.  Is there a reason you didn't do that and then vacuum seal?
Title: Re: Gouda - John's #10, Cheese #059 (Double Washing)
Post by: smilingcalico on June 17, 2011, 05:28:23 AM
Hey John,
  Old post, but I have a question regarding the GC addition.  Do you ever have an issue with your cheese becoming runny like a Camembert, or does the lack of moisture prevent that adequately?